Since it's Friday, you could try the EGBG anti-telemarketing script
http://www.xs4all.nl/~egbg/counterscript.html
Or, I usually find that a request for the registered address of their
company's data protection officer works nicely.
Thanks, by the way, for the tip about "I'm a data protection officer" -
I might put something on those lines on my answerphone message. The
six-foot-snake-round-the-neck approach seems to have a bit more downside
;-)
Andrew
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection
> issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> Sara-Jane Newbon
> Sent: 10 April 2006 11:37
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: You're not going to believe this
>
>
> Hi Clare
>
> We had the same (moved last June) I went on TPS and it did have some
> effect -but the more persistent callers as soon as they asked
> for Mrs...
> they had the phone put down on them immediately no questions
> no nothing
> just hello and click, they soon stopped calling when they
> knew that they
> were just going to get the phone put down on them.
>
> Otherwise just ring and let it go to ansaphone they never leave a
> message and soon tire of never getting through.
> I would say the calls all stopped within 4 weeks, I know its annoying
> that you have to devise a plan but I too wasn't prepared to have to re
> inform everyone of new number again.
>
>
> Sara Jane Newbon
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Watts, Clare (C.)
> Sent: 10 April 2006 10:45
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [data-protection] You're not going to believe this
>
> On the back of this, I have a question:
>
> I have recently moved and as a result of moving area, was required to
> adopt a new number. BT offered us either the number of the previous
> owners of our property or another number. Feeling that as
> the house had
> been empty for 5-6 months, this was the better of the two, I accepted
> the previous owners number. However, I am being dogged by calls
> requesting the previous users of this number. We have asked
> them not to
> call again, remove the number from their records etc etc,
> explained that
> the number does not belong to the person that they are
> calling, but they
> still continue to call.
>
> I am loathed to change the number because I changed the last one twice
> at my previous property to avoid callers of this nature (even
> though the
> number was not from the previous owner that time around) and BT still
> issued me with a number, which was recently owned by someone else, as
> the callers claimed the owner was calling them on it only a
> months prior
> to it being issued to me. (even though BT claim that all numbers are
> only re-issued if they have been out of circulation for a
> long period of
> time).
>
> I registered with the TPS sometime ago but this does not help as these
> people claim that if they already have a record of this number with a
> customer, they can use it and do not need to periodically check their
> lists against the TPS.
>
> I have yet to have any of them try to sell me anything of the back of
> this, but they do all want to discuss in detail who I am, how long I
> have had the number, confirm my address etc..... All of
> which, I am not
> prepared to discuss with them.
>
> Does anyone have any advice of how I can stop these people
> from holding
> my number without an excessive amount of effort on my part to record
> their details and write to each one?
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Clare
>
>
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> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of datap
> Sent: 10 April 2006 10:19
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [data-protection] You're not going to believe this
>
>
> Similarly my partner and I were being beseiged with phone calls by a
> telecomms company. Eventually, after they had promised numerous times
> to note down that we didn't want to recieve phone calls
> anymore, only to
> ring us a couple of days later, I unleashed the DP monster
> and (without
> being at all rude) demanded full details of their company
> with which to
> direct my request to not be hounded with marketing, and my complaint
> regarding their company etc etc... they hung up on me (!) and
> we haven't
> heard from them since, ah smug satisfaction...
>
> Tanya Holden
> Information Governance Manager
>
> Metropolitan Housing Trust
>
>
> >>> HOWLETT Sue L <[log in to unmask]> 04/10/06 10:07 am >>>
>
> Hi Karen
> I completely agree with you, I had a mobile phone company phone me
> asking personal questions, I asked them if they were aware I
> was a data
> protection officer there was this click whirring sound....
>
> Have a good day.
> Regards.
> Sue
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Karen Waite
> Sent: 10 April 2006 09:20
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [data-protection] You're not going to believe this
>
> Hi Sue
>
> Quite honestly I had more ears on what the monsters where doing inside
> the house without me there! Had to take pity on the guy
> though, someone
> had already taken his front teeth....
>
> Makes you aware of how easy it would be to twist the Act
> though and have
> home owners handing over their details all over the place.
> He even put
> his hand on his heart and promised that if we didn't use the I had his
> word that he would bin my details. Yeah right....
>
> Oh I must be feeling very cynical this morning.... :-)
>
> Karen
>
> Karen Waite
> Corporate Records Manager
> Cornwall IT Services
> Megashed
> Royal Cornwall Hospital
> Truro. Cornwall. TR1 3LJ
>
> Ph: 01872 254500
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>
>
> >>> HOWLETT Sue L <[log in to unmask]> 10/04/2006 09:09:00 >>>
>
> Karen
> You are more polite than I would have been especially when
> you normally
> get "Hello Darling is your husband home" or "Alright love"
> They usually
> leave my property ashen faced, and the dog helps LOL, but thanks for
> sharing Regards. Sue
>
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> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Karen Waite
> Sent: 10 April 2006 09:00
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [data-protection] You're not going to believe this
>
> Dear Colleagues
>
> I thought I'd start our Monday off with a bit of Ridleys
> "believe it or
> not".
>
> I had a knock on my front door last week and opened it to find a very
> civilian looking young twenties-something guy with his front teeth
> missing (just giving you the flavour). He was holding what
> looked to be
> a stack of flyers in his hand. Home alone with my two young
> toddlers I
> was on high alert anyway. He said he was offering home renovations
> internally or externally. Of some interest as we'd been looking for
> such a business, I stepped out into the driveway shutting the door and
> children behind me in house.
>
> I indicated a cautious interest so I got the big spiel, if a bit of a
> wet one, and he immediately asked for all my details so someone could
> call us back later that evening. To which I flatly refused.
> More spiel
> so I pointed to a house along the road who had the sort of thing we're
> looking to doing, to which he immediately said they couldn't that type
> of thing. Now, I started getting a bit sus as it was not a
> major piece
> of work at all. Again he waved his flyer around and asked for my
> details. Again I refused, but I reached out and touched one of his
> flyers to pull of his bundle and said, "I tell you what, you
> give me one
> of these flyers and we'll call your company ourselves and get some
> information" to which he pulled them away out of my hands saying he
> can't hand the flyers out (!!!).
>
> So I said, right then are you in the phone book, to which he
> said no as
> well. Laughing and smiling the whole time he tried
> repeatedly to get my
> details to which I said no each time and finally "are you
> trying to tell
> me as a company out to sell a product you're not going to
> give me one of
> your flyers, you're not in the phonebook, YET you want me to hand over
> all my details so you can "call" me later??? Are you serious???".
>
> To which he replied - and this is what this fine tale has
> been building
> up to dear colleagues - he turned around and actually said to
> me <you're
> gonna love this>: "I know I know, but there are some laws
> around to sort
> of protect information you know and I know of them so I
> can't give you
> any information about our business."
>
> Once my jaw picked up of the ground I snorted and gave him a
> hard stare
> and asked if he would be referring to the Data Protection Act to which
> he nodded profusely with another BIG SMILE. I said something back to
> the affect of, are you aware that the DPA legislation is for personal
> information about individuals and to my knowledge it doesn't
> concern big
> business but is there to protect the civilian.
>
> To which his smile dropped and he said I am obviously a smart lady who
> is finding him bit dodgy <to which I raised an eyebrow at him but said
> nothing> and said, just for me he'll give me one of his flyers which
> he
> is NOT allowed to do and will probably get into to trouble for, shoved
> the flyer into my hand, and flew out the driveway at a mile a minute.
> I
> went in a locked up the house.
>
> Thing is I think he was legit, being Cornwall there is a
> woeful lack of
> professionalism in local businesses and door knocking is common, but I
> can't believe that door knocking to drum up business is now
> putting the
> homeowner on the defensive as though WE are invading THEIR privacy!!!
>
>
> I thought I must share this new twist and interpretation of
> the law with
> my DPA colleagues. Obviously it shows a vulnerability that if a
> homeowner is not as aware of the law they would hand over all their
> personal details believing this person and the DPA is there to protect
> big business. Shiester or legit? Hard to tell. But he lost me when
> 1)
> he "couldn't " give me a flyer 2) insisted he could only take my own
> personal/property details 3) not in the phone book yet been
> "around for
> years" 4) and badly spouted the DPA to me.
>
> Welcome to Monday..... forgive the length anything less would
> have been
> misleading.
>
> Karen
>
> Karen Waite
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> Megashed
> Royal Cornwall Hospital
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