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Re: The other Blair

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Nick Landau <[log in to unmask]>

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Nick Landau <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:01:47 -0000

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I know that politicians, say, will tell a journalist that something is off 
the record - and presumably ask them to switch their recorder off.

Many "sources close to" are assumed to be the person themselves by those in 
the know.

If we assume that the shock of Government Ministers was not manufactured 
what is the normal procedure.

This is how it was reported in the Telegraph last Friday:

"The Metropolitan Police Commissioner faces more extraordinary controversy 
when it emerged that a private telephone conversation he had with the 
Attorney General was secretly recorded in Scotland Yard.

Lord Goldsmith, the Government's most senior lawyer, is said to be "very 
cross and disappointed" that the call was recorded without his knowledge or 
permission. He is said to "expect an explanation" from Sir Ian Blair."

Can anyone tell us how the matter came to light?

I imagine that he thought that their conversation was "off the record" and 
that Lord Goldsmith was maybe thinking out loud - indeed otherwise anything 
that Lord Goldsmith said could be taken to be a legal opinion?!

Nick Landau

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Turner" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [data-protection] The other Blair


> Some of Sir Ian Blair's public defenders state that senior people expect
> their calls to be recorded by other senior people. Because I'm not in that
> world, I don't know if it's true or not. This is the DP issue for me - did
> the people Sir Ian was speaking have a reasonable expectation that the 
> calls
> would be recorded? Given the reaction reported by the Attorney General's
> spokespersons, this interpretation seems unlikely.
>
> Therefore, I vote that this could well be unfair processing, but that as
> none of the data subjects is likely to be annoyed enough to complain to 
> the
> Information Commissioner, the matter is unlikely to be resolved one way or
> another.
>
> The lesson would appear to be that unless you are deliberately attempting 
> to
> be secret (and it doesn't sound like Sir Ian was), it's better to be
> entirely open, even to the point of stating the obvious.
>
> Tim Turner
> Wigan Council
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Iain Harrison [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 14 March 2006 10:44
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [data-protection] The other Blair
>
> As to the legality, processing for personal/domestic purposes perhaps?
>
> That said,if it was done from work, with the intention to use in future?
>
> Iain
>
> Iain Harrison
> Information Management Consultant
> Information Management & Contracts
> Leicester City Council
> 0116 252 7606
>
>>>> Ibrahim Hasan <[log in to unmask]> 03/13/06 5:52 pm >>>
> Colleagues will have noticed this story about Ian Blair recording 
> telephone
> conversations with officials.
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4801032.stm
>
> The BBC only offers a short paragraph on the legalities.
>
> I would be interested to hear colleagues' views.
>
> DPA, RIPA, HRA or all three ?
>
> I think it turns on, in what capacity was he recording the calls.
>
>
> Ibrahim Hasan
>
> Act Now Training
> www.actnow.org.uk
> Information Law Training for the Public Sector
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