I know that we cover a wide range of subjects in this group but I was
wondering how el Nino (the current in the Pacific, I believe) had anything
to do with the current discussion.
It would certainly be make things more interesting!
Nick Landau
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Subject: Re: [data-protection] Missing Payslips
> Sorry Nick - Got caught up in the MAP. (Meaningless abbreviations of
> phrases).
>
> You are correct.
>
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> Sent: 09 March 2006 09:43
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> Subject: Re: [data-protection] Missing Payslips
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> NINO? National Insurance number, I gather.
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> Nick Landau
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>> Doreen,
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>> Has similarities with the Citibank/UPS saga in the States, albeit on a
>> smaller scale!
>>
>> Although Royal Mail 'lost' the payslips, Scottish Borders Council are the
>> Data Controller, and you chose to subcontract an element of your data
>> processing to them as a data processor. Do you have a contract
>> (evidenced
>> in writing) whereby RM agree to act in accordance with the DPA?? No, we
>> don't either, but we should according to P7 of the DPA. This is a major
>> problem when dealing with data processors who are much larger than the
>> data
>> controller; it is generally their terms and conditions of sale that apply
>> and NOT you terms and conditions of purchase. Anyone want to take this
>> up
>> in a new thread?
>>
>> Is NINO Fraud a problem? Since 2001 the government have been concerned
>> enough to introduce SNAP (Secure NINO Allocation Process) so 'no smoke
>> without fire'!
>>
>> Read this document
>> http://www.identitycards.gov.uk/library/id_fraud-report.pdf if you need a
>> 'primer' into identity theft. In it you'll find many examples of why
>> loosing NINOs is a 'bad thing'
>>
>> E.g.. "Individuals seeking a NINO (who will in almost all cases have
>> arrived
>> from abroad) may, in particular, be trying to pass one of the hurdles on
>> the
>> road to employment." Don't let the Daily Mail reporters get hold of
>> this!
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>> See also http://www.dsdni.gov.uk/fraud_sub_committee_fifth_report.pdf
>>
>> What can you do now?
>>
>> Can you identify all the NINOs that were mislaid? If so you might
>> consider
>> advising DWP, or other 'agencies' that use NINOs, about the loss. From
>> my
>> understanding, these agencies are still not sufficiently 'joined up' to
>> do
>> much with this information, but it is a proactive step on your part.
>>
>> Rgds.
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>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Broom, Doreen
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>> Subject: [data-protection] Missing Payslips
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>> All
>>
>> We have lots of rural schools in Borders. Payslips are sent out via
>> Royal
>> Mail. Anyway an envelope containing approx. 20 payslips has gone
>> missing.
>> Royal Mail are looking into it. I have been asked for the Data
>> Protection
>> issues surrounding this. The individuals are concerned as their NI
>> Number,
>> Personnel Number - name etc. appear on these slips.
>> Their money has gone into the Bank but there are no Bank details on
>> payslips.
>>
>> I know there are Identity Fraud implications but this is a very rural
>> area
>> and would be very difficult to get away with this type of thing as
>> everyone
>> knows everyone. Can anyone think of anything major that would be likely
>> to
>> happen - really, what kind of advice can I give - especially afetr the
>> horse
>> has bolted so to speak. We may never retrieve these payslips - are RM
>> libel?
>>
>> Any thoughts would be helpful.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Doreen
>> Doreen Broom
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