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Subject:

Re: Geolocation using your Batphone

From:

Christopher Spray <[log in to unmask]>

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Christopher Spray <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 7 Feb 2006 20:45:39 -0000

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Hi, I agree with the concerns, but bear in mind that with the right controls
there is an up side too - for example helping to locate people taken ill in
their vehicles or whose vehicles have broken down and 'phone for a recovery
service.   Everyone concerned just needs to make sure they get the right
controls/permissions in place.

Chris

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Kirkup,Stewart (Cultural
& Community Services)
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 3:30 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [data-protection] Geolocation using your Batphone

I've heard of this service, their defence is that the SMS that are sent
to tell the phone owner that they are being tracked are completely
random and therefore will be difficult to intercept... not that I know
the slightest thing about intercepting text messages but that's what
they do, they are called world tracker I think.
It is supposed to be aimed at tracking lone workers and the like to
ensure that they are ok

Stewart Kirkup

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tim Trent
Sent: 06 February 2006 15:23
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Geolocation using your Batphone

We were chatting in the office this afternoon about the BT SMS mess.  A
colleague said "What about the fact that I can locate you wherever you
are
using your mobile phone?"

I knew the technology existed, but not how HE could locate ME.  So he
told
me.

If I did as we all do, and leave my batphone on my desk he could lock it
in
to a service he paid for on a website somewhere and I would never know.
I
mean never.  Because he would have intercepted all text messages
informing
me that the service was being switched on.

He may have done it.  The thing is I can't tell.  There is no way I can
ever
know about it

So, if it amuses him, he can track me when I take a pee, when I go
shopping,
when I go to the gym, and, if he is a suspicious man and has put his
nearest
and dearest into it, can see if they and I meet (as long as I take my
phone,
that is).

Stalking and stealth.  My only consolation is that he has to pat a
trivial
sum of money to use the service.

If you use this technology to locate your staff, do they know?  I used
to
work for a large company that issued mobiles to us.  They could have
been
issued "ready set up to snoop"

I used to work with a guy who hated his boss.  Actually we all found him
intrusive.  When my colleague was in my living room in Bracknell the
phone
often used to ring "It's Peter (boss).....  Where are you?"

"On the M6 Peter, bad line though...."

Peter would have had a field day as a control freak with this service



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