Surely a utility bill just proves that they have access to the mail at that
address - not that they are a particular individual. They might not even
live at the address eg Benjy the Binman.
Nick Landau
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From: "Tim Turner" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: [data-protection] Verifying Requests for Personal Data - What
's Reasonable.
> The crucial thing about photo ID for me is - rightly or wrongly - it tends
> to be the kind of ID that people hang onto. Many people chuck away their
> utility bills or whatever, but they tend to hang onto their driving
> licences
> and passports. There is a pretty good chance that the applicant who can
> provide evidence that he is John Smith is actually John Smith. It's better
> than not checking. People being the way they are, I'm not prepared to
> expose
> the council to complaints that we have given John Smith's data to someone
> who purports to be him - I can't guarantee this, but a photo ID check is
> better than none at all. Even those applicants who are really unhappy have
> not objected to proving their ID. When I get the photocopy, I shred it
> immediately and record on a subject access progress form that the check
> has
> been made.
>
> As I said in another email, I would prefer to be in the position outlined
> by
> Fatima in her original email i.e. check the ID with the punter in front of
> you. Fatima's original message expressed surprise that her council's
> standards were higher the IC and government departments. This should come
> as
> no surprise - although there are shocking exceptions, the highest
> standards
> of DP and FOI compliance are in local government in my opinion.
>
> Tim Turner
> Data Protection / FOI Officer
> Legal and Property Services
> Wigan Council
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Bowden [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Thu 27 July 2006 15:01
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [data-protection] Verifying Requests for Personal Data -
> What's
> Reasonable.
>
> On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 02:50:22PM +0100, Humphrey, Barry wrote:
>> It is an approach I have also adopted by requesting at least one
>> original photographic ID (i.e. passport/ photo driving licence)
>
> What do you (or anyone else who requests this) do with this photo ID when
> you get it? Do you have something to compare it to? Do you store it for
> future use? Do you just discard it without actually doing anything with
> it?
>
> These are serious questions. I'm struggling to understand why people
> request
> photo ID.
>
> I can understand it where someone is requesting something like CCTV
> footage
> (although there I'd want to provide something better than the photo from
> my
> Driving Licence or Passport!), but not for most 'standard'
> SARs.
>
> Tony
>
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