Dear all,
I had a conversation with a supplier not so long ago about iPod's and was
advised to bear the following points in mind. The iPod does not have a
'track mark' facility and you can not name files, it is evidently quite easy
to inadvertently turn the machine off, the record quality is not strong and
there is a tendency for iPod's to pick up background and 'white noise'.
There is no facility to organise and structure the files and perhaps most
importantly Dragon and iPod's do no work together as supplied, you need a
third party converter, which adds further complications to the recording
process (especially for the non-techie minded), as well as additional costs.
I was also told the Belkin is an omni-directional not uni-directional mic so
the record quality is not as good. My preference is for either the DM20 or
the MZ-B10
Keith Griffin
CELT
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From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Phil Teare
Sent: 14 April 2005 18:08
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Subject: Re: i-pods
I wasn't aware of this problem.
Are the i-pod guys insane? Why not use mic jack socket? are they too thin?
Sounds like the quality could be a problem too?
Of course many pocket PCs will record. My wife's I-paq H4000 does this.
Again the price may be prohibative, but then it comes with a silly amount of
other useful features. However just looking at it now, there's no mic
socket! Its internal mic is not nearly good enough to capture every word of
a lecture (I just listened to her recording of a nursing lecture, and a ot
of it is unintelligable fuzz)
So having heard this I'll stick to recommending Sony Minidisk and Sony
digital Mic. (Mini disks are incredibly cheep now and I've had only one die
on me after 5 years).
I'm not one of those techno snobs who have to have the best spec everything,
I just know that if you can't hear your recording, its useless.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Graham Rice" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: i-pods
> > The quality is exceptional (good if your not at the front of the class
> every
> > time). I especially recommend the mic (which I'm sure could work with an
> > i-pod.
>
> Phil
> Be careful you can't just plug a microphone into an iPod you need to use
> either a Griffin iTalk or a Belkin Universal Microphone Adaptor to give
you
> a socket you can attach the microphone too.
>
> I had problems with the Griffin iTalk when it first came out it would only
> work with stereo external microphones, Griffin told me that they were
> working on it and would send me a replacement when they worked out a
> solution alas I am still waiting. I found the Griffin iTalk to produce
> better personal recordings than the Belkin voice recorder but there were
> also some odd problems with it. There is a report about the iTalk on the
> Amazon webpage
>
> See the section on Features and Performance at the sight below
>
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0001WW398/103-2778951-1146221
> ?v=glance
>
> I found the Belkin Universal Microphone Adapter to work with all our
> microphones and to work better if the speaker is further away though you
> need to practice to find which the best setting to be used is. Another
snag
> is there is no internal microphone or speaker on the Belkin Universal
> Microphone Adapter which means you have to have an external microphone if
> you want to make personal recordings as with the Griffin iTalk.
>
> Which ever recorder/adapter is used all voice memo files recorded on an
iPod
> are limited to 8kHz, 16 bit mono WAV files.
>
> Every so often I have another try at recording lectures using an iPod but
so
> far every time I do I get better results using other digital recorders or
> Minidiscs
>
> Regards
>
> Graham Rice, Technician
>
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> University of Westminster
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.
> [mailto:DIS-
> > [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Phil Teare
> > Sent: 14 April 2005 16:26
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: i-pods
> >
> > I use the Sony MZ-R70 minidisc and sony ECM-MS907 digital mic.
> >
> > The quality is exceptional (good if your not at the front of the class
> every
> > time). I especially recommend the mic (which I'm sure could work with an
> > i-pod.
> >
> > Although the price may be a little high, I really would go with this mic
> if
> > poss. (there may be newer versions in the same line out now, though I
can
> > only recommend this model as its the only one I've used).
> >
> > Seriously, it has to be heard to be believed, and is of practical use
> > (nothing more annoying than getting home and finding your audio notes
are
> > unusable). I actually know professional recording musicians who use them
> on
> > albums!
> >
> > Best,Phil
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Trott" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 4:07 PM
> > Subject: Re: i-pods
> >
> >
> > > I recommend the Olympus DM20 and SONY ZM mic pack. This has the
> > advantage
> > of
> > > an indexing feature - I see no point in the student recording lectures
> if
> > they
> > > can't find what they want.
> > >
> > > The other advantage is that it doesn't raise eyebrows at the LEA,. It
is
> > > compatible with both PC and MAC and the 3 suppliers we regularly use
for
> > computer
> > > equipment caryy it and can provide training.
> > >
> > > Mick Trott
> > >
>
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