I agree with you Michelle, that is why I used the term 'proof-corrected', rather than proof read.  The point I was trying to make is that some lecturers (in my experience) object to support tutors telling students where they have misspelt words or used incorrect punctuation, but have no objection to students using software which does the same job.  

Lloyd

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From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Michael Trott
Sent: 28 November 2005 17:16
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Subject: Re: Dyslexia support -Proof reading

In a message dated 28/11/05 10:52:17 GMT Standard Time, 
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<< Curiously, some colleagues seem to accept work that has been
 electronically proof-corrected as the student's own, while regarding
 that which has had the same job done to it by a support tutor as
 'cheating'.  Does the medium really make that much difference if the
 outcome is the same?
  >>

I'm sorry, there is no such thing as 'electronic proof reading':

- there is spellchecking within a wordprocessor which comes down to checking 
that a word is in a list - often the word will not be incorect or will be the 
wrong word and completely ignored because it is spelled correctly

- and there is screen reading which reads back to the user what is on screen 
and requires the listener to recognise an error and correct it themselves

Both require an input from the student

Proof reading by an individual is a very different thing involving 
identifying errors and  intelligently correcting these and/or substituting alternatives 

The outcomes are not always the same.  

A more valid comparison might be between those who have a publicly funded 
proof reader (at up to £60 per hour) and those that are able to use friends or 
family. The second is something I guess the majority of students have done.

The point I'm making is that you can't justify proof reading on the grounds 
that spellcheckers and screen readers exist. One needs to judge this against 
academic criteria.

Mick Trott

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