Tinsley, Chris on Monday, January 31, 2005 at 4:12 PM said:-
> The provision of this info is subject to the Education
> Regulations, it is required that head teachers supply this
> information to all parents and is it irrelevant whether the
> data subject objects or not, it is not within the data
> subjects gift. The information is only the info defined in the regs.
>
> On occasions when we have had similar cases we have always
> involved Social Services, most of the cases involved
> separated fathers. We could only deny these fathers access
> if could be proved that they had no parental responsibility
> or if there was a chance of serious harm (duff-up factor).
What about surrogate parents?
Ian W
> -----Original Message-----
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> issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> Tinsley, Chris
> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 4:12 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Disclosure to father
>
>
> The provision of this info is subject to the Education
> Regulations, it is required that head teachers supply this
> information to all parents and is it irrelevant whether the
> data subject objects or not, it is not within the data
> subjects gift. The information is only the info defined in the regs.
>
> On occasions when we have had similar cases we have always
> involved Social Services, most of the cases involved
> separated fathers. We could only deny these fathers access
> if could be proved that they had no parental responsibility
> or if there was a chance of serious harm (duff-up factor).
>
> Chris Tinsley
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> Scourfield, Brenda
> Sent: 31 January 2005 15:59
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [data-protection] Disclosure to father
>
> I didn't think there was actual age just that the child had
> to demonstrate that they understood the implications of the
> SAR/Act to the satisfaction of the Data Controller. They
> could be as young as 7 if of adequate maturity.
>
> Brenda Scourfield
> Team Leader
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Broom, Doreen [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: 31 January 2005 15:50
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [data-protection] Disclosure to father
> >
> > A child of 16 though has the right to object and in some
> cases 12 (in
> > Scotland) but I would have thought 16 in England.
> > D
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Tinsley, Chris [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > > Sent: 31 January 2005 15:40
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: Disclosure to father
> > >
> > > The definitions in The Education (Pupil Information)(England)
> > Regulations
> > > 2000 [statutory instrument 2000 no.297] gives a parent "absolute"
> > > rights
> > to
> > > documents defined as Educational records. This is not
> conditional
> > > on
> > the
> > > consent of the daughter. The problem is defining parent.
> > >
> > > To do this take a look at
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.dfes.gov.uk/publications/guidanceonthelaw/dfeepub/jun00/050
> > 600/
> > >
> > > section 4 defines a parent as below
> > >
> > > 4. Section 576 of the Education Act 1996 defines "parent" to
> > > include:
> > >
> > > all natural parents, whether they are married or not; and
> any person
> > > who, although not a natural parent, has parental
> > responsibility
> > > for a child or young person; and
> > > any person who, although not a natural parent, has care
> of a child
> > > or
> > young
> > > person.
> > >
> > > If the biological parent falls in to any of these categories the
> > educational
> > > record must be provided, subject to any fears about serious harm.
> > >
> > > Chris Tinsley
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
> > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Smith, Tony
> > > Sent: 31 January 2005 15:33
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: [data-protection] Disclosure to father
> > >
> > > SI 2000/297 does not seem to give access to the parents
> for the full
> > school
> > > record. It only seems to allow for access to certain
> information. In
> > adition
> > > to this, I assume that "parent" must be defined somewhere. The
> > biological
> > > parent might not be the legal parent.
> > >
> > > Tony
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
> > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Antoinette
> > > Carter
> > > Sent: 31 January 2005 15:28
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: Disclosure to father
> > >
> > >
> > > I totally disagree. At 16 years old, the daughter has a right to
> > > privacy in her own right. She is not refusing access to
> anyone, ie.
> > > her mother and step-father can still exercise the right of access
> > > under the Education Regs. To blatantly ignore the wishes of the
> > > daughter is completely wrong in my opinion.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
> > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Trevor Louth
> > > Sent: 31 January 2005 15:22
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: [data-protection] Disclosure to father
> > >
> > > The Education (Pupil Information)(England) Regulations 2000
> > > [statutory instrument 2000 no.297] gives parents a right
> of access
> > > to the educational record of their children and therefore
> > > presumably the child cannot prevent this. Trevor
> > >
> > > >>> Brenda Scourfield <[log in to unmask]>
> > > >>> 31/01/05
> > > 14:38:19 >>>
> > > The biological father has applied to a school for
> disclosure of his
> > > 16 year old dauhter's records. The daughter does not want
> anything
> > > disclosed to him, only to her stepfather (and he isn't
> making a SAR
> > > anyway). I believe because of her age she has the right
> to stop the
> > > school disclosing - or is there some other aspect I am missing ?
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