I totally agree with Elaine.
QAG needs to be very careful about defining and adhering to
its remit. In addition the way in which QAG is "consulting
with" and "informing" the sector about its activites needs
to be handled with a greater deal of forethought.
QAG are treading on the toes of both institutions and
HEFCE at the moment and I think ought to concentrate on
tightening up their review of assessment centres as a
starting point before considering looking at other areas
relating to DSAs.
Julie
p.s. As an aside could someone in QAG please take off the
term 'DRAFT 30.06.03' which is currently written on the
documentation which has been given the status 'approved' on
the QAG website (unless of course these documents are still
draft in which case could someone please explain what the
status of 'approved' means).
On Wed, 26 May 2004 09:32:43 +0100 Elaine Shillcock
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I've not heard mention of the Round Table dissolving or moving to one
> meeting at any of the Round Table meetings I've been to. Perhaps that has
> also come from QAG? QAG seems to be running like a runaway train - perhaps
> we need more round table meetings, rather than less, to effectively oversee
> what is happening - with adequate time beforehand to read the papers.
>
> I don't think that anybody on the round table had expected things to move at
> such a rate when QAG was formed to look at the quality of the assessment
> process - I certainly didn't. Perhaps, in hindsight, a totally independent
> review would have been more appropriate, with interested parties
> contributing to an independent report that all could then take ownership of
> - at the very least, it might not have generated the range of reactions that
> seem to be accompanying QAG wherever it goes.
>
> Elaine
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Michael Trott
> Sent: 26 May 2004 07:24
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Computer training
>
> In a message dated 26/05/04 02:08:13 GMT Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
> Mick,
>
> Don't forget that QAG was formed as a subgroup of the round table and if
> the round table is dissolved who monitors and quality assures QAG??
>
> Steve.
>
> The Minister? The department? I am not certain RT will dissolve but it only
> meets 2 x a year anyway it might go to 1. QAG is likely to be formed into a
> company with a board of directors like some other governments organisations
> -
> QCA?
>
> Anyway, that's speculation. I think the point was that QAG should limit it's
> interest to 1 aspect of DSA, it will not. It will look sat all of it.
>
> Mick
>
> Mick,
>
> Don't forget that QAG was formed as a subgroup of the round table and if the
> round table is dissolved who monitors and quality assures QAG??
>
> Steve.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Michael Trott
> Sent: 25 May 2004 23:39
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Computer training
>
> In a message dated 25/05/04 20:59:16 GMT Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
> My understanding was that QAG was charged with looking at the assessment
> process and setting some standards around this only...not to invite itself
> to get involved in other areas... Perhaps this is a Round Table issue?
>
> Simon Bloor
> Access SUMMIT
>
> Well, that might be but I think the view is that the supplier's Service
> Level
> Agreement was handed to QAG and that training and perhaps even
> dyslexia/study support might come under that umbrella too. They are all
> related, in fact more is often spent on training than the assessment and
> more is often spent on dyslexia/study support than equipment, training and
> assessment put together.
>
> QAG is not inviting itself into every area. It has been asked to look at
> some areas and others turn out to have an obvious connection. It would seem
> silly to look at the assessment and then equipment without looking at the
> other areas coming out of the assessment.
>
> Part of this is to scrutinise the separation that should exist between the
> various activities - assessment and 'downstream' activities such as
> training, equipment and support. Part, is to make sure that the service
> serves the interests of the students. Part, is to ensure that each offers
> good value for public money.
>
> As I understand it, the Round Table might eventually either dissolve or
> meet less often. QAG was a working group that met much more regularly and
> will eventually be formed into a legal body, perhaps similar to the QCA.
>
> Mick Trott
>
>
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