I agree with Terry Hart, I also was interested in becoming a QAG
auditor, but as a self employed person I certainly wouldn't apply
without knowing the pay rate.

Gerard V Conroy
Consultant on Academic Practice and Disability Issues
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-----Original Message-----
From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Terry Hart
Sent: 20 May 2004 17:39
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: QAG Auditors
Importance: High

I am interested in becoming an auditor ( plenty of experience in
assessments and a qualification in auditing - combined with a passion to
see standards improved) but I find it difficult to sign up to something
that first of all has not had a pay rate set to it and secondly it seems
to be very short term. If my understanding is correct the time employed
as an auditor would vary between 2 and 3 years max. then a new lot would
be bought in. What about the skill factor the auditors would bring to
the job is it only good for a period of 2 years?.
Unless the training of exisiting auditors improves and more attention is
paid to understanding the individuals learning processes and applying
proper technology but more importantly strategy and training then all
that will happen is a continuation of the same standards but because
some auditing process is in place we will continue to fool ourselves
that standards are improving - simply because we are measuring the wrong
thing!.
Lets get the auditing process set in place properly and not rush into
setting up a half cocked system when the will and potential is there to
establish a model with the support of all the people that need to see it
work properly. I include in that the tax payer who currently gets a
pretty poor deal where vast amounts of money are misspent by
concentrating on technology at the cost of the individual and the future
of this country by failing to maximise on the potential of it's student
population.

Terry Hart
Disability Assist Services
University of Plymouth

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support
staff. on behalf of James Palfreman-Kay
        Sent: Thu 20/05/2004 15:34
        To: [log in to unmask]
        Cc:
        Subject: FW: QAG Auditors



        fyi

        -----Original Message-----
        From: [log in to unmask]
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]

        Sent: 20 May 2004 14:42
        To: James Palfreman-Kay
        Subject: FW: QAG Auditors


        James,

        I'd be grateful if you would circulate Katherine's message below
on
        dis-forum.

        Regards,

        Ian Thompson
        DfES
        Student Finance Delivery Division
        Tel: 020 7925 5976


        -----Original Message-----
        From: Katherine Henderson
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]
        Sent: 20 May 2004 13:36
        To: [log in to unmask]
        Subject: QAG Auditors


        The deadline for receipt of applications to be a QAG auditor has
been
        extended to Monday. Please take this opportunity to get involved
in an
        improved quality assurance framework if you haven't already done
so.

        If anyone needs any further information about applying, or the
        requirements of being an auditor please contact me off list.

        Kath Henderson
        Team Leader - Student Support
        Education Department
        Overseas House
        PO Box 191
        Quay Street
        Manchester             Tel. No: 0161 234 7076
        M60 3ST                 Fax No: 0161 234 7004






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