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Subject: Re: Termination
Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 12:00:12 +0100
From: Margarita Rainford <[log in to unmask]>
Organization: University of Sunderland Students' Union
To: Clementine Amawo <[log in to unmask]>
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Isn't this exactly the point? - Informed Consent would depend on the
ability to understand and the level of understanding - and who judges
the ability to understand. In this case it appears to be well
intentioned professional carers acting no doubt in what they thought
were the best interests of the young person.
The ideal situation would have involved the parents as well, because if
the child had decided to continue with the pregnancy one important
aspect would have been adult support/accomodation/financial support etc.
To have excluded the parents from the opportunity to support their
daughter in this way would not have provided the child with enough
options in my opinion to have allowed her to decide on what arrangements
she may have needed to put into place............but we do not have
enough details about what went on to speculate. No one has mentioned how
the boyfriend feels , so no doubt there is another young person (and
perhaps his family) having difficulties associated with this.
I feel heartily sorry for everyone involved and hope that the child will
be given the level of professional care that no doubt she will now need
to get over the psychological aspects of this especially now there is
media involvement .
As a parent of a not much older child I am faced with a continuous
stream of imposed responsibilities - why is it that I have to write/or
ring my childs school in the case of absence and be answerable in the
case of truancy. It is my child who decides that a day off is necessary
because of feeling unwell and takes the decision to miss whatever is
going on that day. I could go on giving more examples of consent that I
have to give on behalf of of 'my' under 16 year old.
I have a strong belief that there should be a stronger emphasis on
'relationships' rather than the mechanical aspects of reproduction and
contraception tackled at school.
In terms of DP it would be interesting to know if she has been
identified and by whom & how? There may be other professional
confidentiality issues.
Margarita Rainford
Clementine Amawo wrote:
>What?
>Just because she is 'Mature(!!!)' enough to get pregnant?
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>>>>"Broom, Doreen" <[log in to unmask]> 13/05/2004 09:42:49 >>>
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>Hi All
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>Heard on the news this morning that a girl of 14 had approached a Social Worker
>at school to say she was pregnant. They arranged a process of taking a pill -
>the first one had already been taken and the mother found out. Reasoned
>decision was made that the girl was of mature enough mind to enable her to make
>a reasoned decisin herself without her parents consent.... Just wondered, will
>the DP get some more flak here?
>Dor
>Doreen Broom
>Access to Information Officer
>Scottish Borders Council
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