As someone who had to live (with my parents, brother and sister) for many
number of years 'hiding' from an individual for our safety (they are now
deceased), the idea that a stranger could snap my picture, put it in an
exhibition and potentially give our location away is horrifying. I know
this is an exceptional case, but I object to some stranger saying he has the
right to snap my picture just because its interesting and in a public place.
We all have to leave the safety of our homes sometimes, but the fact that we
are now walking in public does not give automatic consent to amateur
snappers!
-----Original Message-----
From: Turner,Tim (Corporate Resources)
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Sent: 09 January 2004 11:05
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Subject: Re: photos in exhibitions
But does this mean that if you don't leave the house with a bag on your
head, you're fair game? Admittedly, the bag might itself make one worthy of
a photograph, but the logical consequence of what you're saying is that a
camera is an automatic licence to capture any image one chooses to.
Little kids in playgrounds, and road accidents are two examples of things
happening in public places, but I don't imagine amateur snappers would be
queuing up with their Nikons in those instances. And who defines a public
place? Surely if you don't draw your curtains, someone might claim you're
making yourself public. But if someone gets their camera out because an
"interesting" picture beckons, I think an emphatic right to some measure of
privacy might be asserted - with fists, if nothing else. Nothing stops the
photographer taking the picture and then asking for permission to use it
afterwards - and if you think the person might say no, or feel
uncomfortable, does that put the "snatched" picture in a different light?
Tim Turner
Data and Information Security Officer
Derbyshire County Council
Tel: 01629 580000 ext 7373
> -----Original Message-----
> From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
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> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 10:46 AM
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> Subject: Re: [data-protection] photos in exhibitions
>
> Tim's response to my (deliberately provocative) e-mail misses the point.
> Being a face in a crowd doesn't make you any less recognisable in a still
> photo, and TV images can have individual images frozen - and that's
without
> getting into really complicated image manipulation. In any case, where
does
> a "crowd" start? Ok, I have to get permission from a single person, or a
> couple. But what about 20 people, or 50, or 100? When does Tim's "crowd"
> begin?
>
> National newspapers tend to send a single photographer to a football match
-
> a "lone" photographer". So he/she would have to ask everyone for consent
if
> he/she took a picture of the crowd? Whereas the dozen or so TV camera
> operators at a typical Premiership match wouldn't have to?
>
> As a keen amateur photographer myself I often take pictures of people -
> sometimes individuals, sometimes groups - in public places because I think
> they make interesting photos. I rarely know if the picture I take is one
> that I will wish to exhibit until (i) I see the finished product and (ii)
an
> exhibition opportunity arises for which the photo would be suitable. Do I
> ask permission on spec? Also, many pictures "work" because they are
snatched
> moments, taken when the subject is unaware and so is doing something
> completely natural. If you had to ask permission beforehand then many
> photos, widely acclaimed on artistic grounds, would simply not exist.
>
> In actual fact I think in this specific case the photographer WAS in the
> wrong - he/she knew specifically that it was being taken for exhibition -
> but I don't think you can generalise in the way that many contributors
have
> suggested.
>
> Stuart
>
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