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Too many rules in this society we live in...to be quite honest I wouldn't
mind if someone took my photo unless it was likely to cause me harm/distress
(which the wedding photo may have done). From now on I won't run about the
house starkers just in case there is some beady-eyed photographer with an
x-ray lens which can see through the walls of my house..............mind
you, that may cause others harm/distress ........sorry, couldn't resist
.................it's Friday!!!
D
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But does this mean that if you don't leave the house with a bag on
your head, you're fair game? Admittedly, the bag might itself make one
worthy of a photograph, but the logical consequence of what you're saying is
that a camera is an automatic licence to capture any image one chooses to.
Little kids in playgrounds, and road accidents are two examples of
things happening in public places, but I don't imagine amateur snappers
would be queuing up with their Nikons in those instances. And who defines a
public place? Surely if you don't draw your curtains, someone might claim
you're making yourself public. But if someone gets their camera out because
an "interesting" picture beckons, I think an emphatic right to some measure
of privacy might be asserted - with fists, if nothing else. Nothing stops
the photographer taking the picture and then asking for permission to use it
afterwards - and if you think the person might say no, or feel
uncomfortable, does that put the "snatched" picture in a different light?
Tim Turner
Data and Information Security Officer
Derbyshire County Council
Tel: 01629 580000 ext 7373
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> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 10:46 AM
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> Subject: Re: [data-protection] photos in exhibitions
>
> Tim's response to my (deliberately provocative) e-mail misses the
point.
> Being a face in a crowd doesn't make you any less recognisable in
a still
> photo, and TV images can have individual images frozen - and
that's without
> getting into really complicated image manipulation. In any case,
where does
> a "crowd" start? Ok, I have to get permission from a single
person, or a
> couple. But what about 20 people, or 50, or 100? When does Tim's
"crowd"
> begin?
>
> National newspapers tend to send a single photographer to a
football match -
> a "lone" photographer". So he/she would have to ask everyone for
consent if
> he/she took a picture of the crowd? Whereas the dozen or so TV
camera
> operators at a typical Premiership match wouldn't have to?
>
> As a keen amateur photographer myself I often take pictures of
people -
> sometimes individuals, sometimes groups - in public places because
I think
> they make interesting photos. I rarely know if the picture I take
is one
> that I will wish to exhibit until (i) I see the finished product
and (ii) an
> exhibition opportunity arises for which the photo would be
suitable. Do I
> ask permission on spec? Also, many pictures "work" because they
are snatched
> moments, taken when the subject is unaware and so is doing
something
> completely natural. If you had to ask permission beforehand then
many
> photos, widely acclaimed on artistic grounds, would simply not
exist.
>
> In actual fact I think in this specific case the photographer WAS
in the
> wrong - he/she knew specifically that it was being taken for
exhibition -
> but I don't think you can generalise in the way that many
contributors have
> suggested.
>
> Stuart
>
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