I heard about this on the radio before it was discussed on the list.
Janette
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
> [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Hughes
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 9:46 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [data-protection] FW: [data-protection] FW:
> [data-protection] DPA to blame agai n
>
> I share your suspicions about my former ISEB guru Mr Pounder fabricating
> this story - especially as he stated that it appeared in yesterday's Sun
> newspaper. I bought a copy on the way home and searched high and low but
> couldn't see it anywhere.
>
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Doherty [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 06 January 2004 18:13
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [data-protection] FW: [data-protection] DPA to blame agai n
>
>
> Evenin' all (some more senior people might see the joke),
>
> I noticed a comment earlier today that there had been no contribution to
> this discussion from any police subscribers. I cannot speak for The
> Police;
> only for me. I work for a police force.
>
> My view (and that of fellow practitioners in the policing arena) is the
> police cannot decide in advance the likelihood of any evidence being
> excluded if challenged as being unfair because it has been obtained by
> means not in accordance with the data protection principles. Or indeed for
> any other reason.
>
> It is the task of a judge or magistrate to decide if evidence has been
> obtained so unfairly that it should be excluded by way of Section 78
> Police
> and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 (PACE). Even then this can only be done at
> the application of a defendant.
>
> I see no problem with what the shopkeeper did - although the school might
> have declined to give him the information unless there was certainty that
> it was necessary for the investigation of the crime. He might have simply
> wanted to sort a few kneecaps out.
>
> If the story is correct it seems likely the shopkeeper spoke to a bod in a
> police call-centre rather than a police investigator.
> Does anyone share my suspicion that Chris Pounder made this one up just to
> get people talking?
> Regards,
>
> Michael Doherty
> Kent Police Data Protection Unit
> 01622 652066
>
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