BTW - For those who are interested the role is based in North London N22
Kind regards,
Hugo
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From: Hugo Brown
Sent: 07 December 2004 11:46
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Subject: Data Protection Consultant
Hi all - I've not been in touch for a long time, I hope your well
I have a new role to work on and they want to fill this ASAP, I have a full job description if you require further information, however, in brief the details are as follows.
1) The role now cover all areas of Information Governance.
2) We are not designated as a public body under the Freedom of Information Act, however a recent ruling designated us as a public body for EU Procurement purposes. So I suspect this will come onto the agenda..
3) BS7799 is now being looked at.
4) We have recently setup an Information governance forum which covers the whole Group.
Annual Salary up to £34k(+PRP @ 4.5 %)
35 Hour Week
Flexi Time
Final Salary Contributory Pension Scheme
Look forward to hearing from you
Kind regards,
Hugo
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From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Hughes
Sent: 02 December 2004 15:07
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: FW: [data-protection] Research
Hmmm I'm not so sure they should be criticised for remaining grammatically accurate, even if it does sound odd. No worse than answering the phone "This is he" rather than the universal "Speaking" (or in my case before 9.30am ... "WHAT!").
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From: Antoinette Carter [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 02 December 2004 15:12
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Subject: Re: [data-protection] Research
And another thing!!!! I don't even like the title!! I know "data" is used in the singular and in the plural, but doesn't "What are Personal Data" sound weird; rather than "What is Personal Data".
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From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tim Trent
Sent: 02 December 2004 14:27
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [data-protection] Research
The real issue is always context.
"What is personal data?" or "Is 'shoe size' personal data?" are not questions that can be posed in isolation. Ignoring the word "Living" at present, the question to be posed is "Is 'shoe size' personal data if it is linked in some precise manner to a particular individual?"
It is relatively simple to see that 'shoe size' in isolation is not personal data, but that "Tim Trent's shoe size is X" is personal data.
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From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tim Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 1:46 PM
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Subject: Re: [data-protection] FW: [data-protection] Research
I think I understand what they are saying, and I think that they have a point.
There are people who operate less on a clear understanding of the legislation, and more on a fuzzy, almost incoherent set of assumptions and instincts. They then get annoyed with people at the Commissioner's office, when they stick to what the words in the Act (and associated
regulations)
actually say, rather than what these people want to hear. Some people seem to fix upon concepts like privacy and confidentiality when what they should be doing is concentrating on what the Act (and for example the Privacy and Electronic Communications Regs) say. If all else fails, people cling to the notion of the "spirit of the Act", which is ironic given how soulless the DPA actually is.
I witnessed so-called experts in heated debate about what personal data is all about, but to be honest, such debates are usually more about instinct and assumption that hard fact. I'm not saying I'm necessarily any different, but I don't think that there is a clear, legally-sound definition of "personal data" around which everyone can warm their hands. If there was one, whatever it was, a significant minority would immediately reject it as too broad, or two narrow.
Tim Turner
Data Protection Officer
Wigan Council
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> From: John Hughes[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
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> Sent: 02 December 2004 12:53
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> Subject: [data-protection] FW: [data-protection] Research
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> Interesting sentence on page 7 of "What are personal data":
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> "Where there is a large literature on data protection, the
> interpretation of 'personal data' is seldom addressed, and the meaning
> of the concept tends to be assumed rather than rigorously analysed."
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> Funny, I rather had the impression that it had been analysed to death
> and pulled to pieces in a dozen different directions. Nor am I aware
> of anyone who is involved in the application of data protection having
> assumptions about its meaning - very much the opposite. It stikes me
> as a very strange comment.
>
> John
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> From: DREW Nic [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 02 December 2004 08:20
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> Subject: [data-protection] Research
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> The IC has published Research Finding's on, amongst other things,
> "What are personal data"
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> http://www.informationcommissioner.gov.uk/eventual.aspx?id=6841
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> Nic
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