Aren't you forgetting that we have a responsibility to ensure that all
eight principles are applied properly ? In a case like this, we want to
be making sure that that the system and its information is secure, that
the purpose of holding the data is clearly defined and well understood,
and that retention / destruction of the information is done timeously
and properly.
Sometimes I think we focus too much on problems (and there are many !)
and stopping people doing things. Part of our jobs has to be finding
ways of getting things done.....
Donald
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tim Trent
Sent: 08 September 2004 08:48
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [data-protection] Fingerprinting schoolkids
This is the same argument as "Those who have nothing to hide have
nothing to fear". It always "looks reasonable". I have never agreed
with that position. It is the argument I attack, not you, Donald.
To me it looks firmly as though the purpose of the processing was not
made clear (and if of primary age then the child is unlikely to
understand the implications of the processing anyway), and as though
consent was absolutely necessary for this form of processing.
Oh yes. As one of those with nothing to hide, and thus nothing to fear,
what *do* I fear?
The answer is any minor indiscretion that anyone could hold against me.
The bus I forgot to get a ticket on when I was 22; the paperclip I took
form the office and used on a private letter; the phone call I made on
private business; the *friends* I associate with ("are you now or have
you ever been a communist?"); the fact that I never went to Dorset that
day, instead I was miles away doing something else; the school library
book I never returned, and the fact that my fingerprint is now on a
database somewhere as a defaulter or possible thief; that someone has
made a simple mistake, and I am persecuted for the deeds of some other
"Tim Trent"; etc
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Donald Henderson
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 8:33 AM
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Subject: Re: [data-protection] Fingerprinting schoolkids
[snip]
Was consent necessary ? Definitely debatable - lack of consent could be
taken to prejudice the education of the child (since they wouldn't be
able to get books out of the library) [/snip]
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