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Its not journalists on the list which is the problem - its journalists
thinking that they can freely use e-mails describing DP problems as a
source for their stories which is the problem.
No-one is going to use this list if they think that what they send could
appear in the local rag - possibly identifying them by name. For
example, consider this paragraph of a story which is to appear in the
North Chingford Gazette next week.
"In a bizarre twist which shows the incompetence of the local
Council, Fred Bloggs, ostensibly the Data Protection Officer,
admitted to his colleagues that he did not know whether he could use
Council Tax data to catch benefit cheats or speeding motorists"
If there are journalists on the list, then they have to have clear rules
of what to do if they want to use e-mails in their stories. And we need
clear rules of what to expect if we send an e-mail to a group which
contains journalists.
Over to Sally for action, I suspect
C
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Subject: Re: Some stats about our DP list
I absolutely welcome journalists on this list. I find that the DPA is
not well enforced, and that the UKIC is not effective in its role as a
regulator. More press coverage will lead to increased public awareness
and (we hope) better enforcement.
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ian Welton
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 10:18 AM
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Subject: [data-protection] Some stats about our DP list
Sally Justice on 24 August 2004 at 12:57 said:-
>
> I don't know off hand how many reporters are on the DP list but just a
> word of warning Phil Batey emailed the FOI list to say
>
[snip]
> consultancy services! "
>
> So saying I do expect you all to please keep the discussiona and
> contributions flowing! I am still hopefull that someone form IC office
> will joint this list soon as a (known) lurker.
>
Nice to see more people taking an interest in DP and seeking to develop
their knowledge or stay up to date.
It would be strange not to expect reporters to keep up to date with
discussion lists on topics of interest to them via various means as it
would be not to expect any regulatory/law enforcement agencies,
Politicians, academics or any other people who have an interest.
Public life seems to exert pressure on the majority in a number of ways
to only observe rather than directly interact, as in some ways FOI makes
clear and perhaps attempts to rectify.
DP is apparently about separating public from private, but that dividing
line clearly needs to be openly public if grave misunderstandings are to
be avoided. In my opinion the main difficulties for this group and the
ICO arise where there is a difference in the distinction created by that
division in what is private. Wide contribution to the discussions on
this list and FOI should only serve to promote that, provided of course
the spirit of any list rules are not abused.
Ian W
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