Saucer of cream for Mr Cashmore!
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From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Cashmore, Stuart
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 4:46 PM
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Subject: Re: [data-protection] DP and School Concerts
Without any way intending to demean your achievement, you only have to give
*enough* correct answers to pass - you don't have to get *every* answer
right!
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From: Norman Pottinger [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 20 May 2004 16:41
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Subject: Re: DP and School Concerts
Yes and I obviously gave the right ones when I took and passed the exam.
Norman Pottinger
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From: John Hughes [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 20 May 2004 16:29
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Subject: FW: [data-protection] DP and School Concerts
It's an exam - they ask the questions, you give the answers.
-----Original Message-----
From: Norman Pottinger [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 20 May 2004 16:32
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Subject: Re: [data-protection] DP and School Concerts
Yes but what was the answer???
Norman Pottinger
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-----Original Message-----
From: Sue Hagon (PLC) [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 20 May 2004 16:24
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Subject: Re: DP and School Concerts
The ISEB obviously think it is closely connected with the DPA, as this very
topic was one of the essay questions in the January exam!
Sue
-----Original Message-----
From: Norman Pottinger [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 20 May 2004 15:57
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Subject: Re: [data-protection] DP and School Concerts
We are trying to reach a decision based on what laws legislation etc covers
this activity.
S36 of DPA exempts (amongst other things) parents videoing children, in
whatever setting. It is therefore not relevant to the school, nursery
whatever.
All schools (especially nursery and pre school) have been instructed by
their LEAs that they have to take precautions to protect Children. In the
light of Climbie et al. It has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with DP.
As DP professionals I am surprised at the number of you using the Act as an
excuse not to do or to allow something.
Norman Pottinger
Head of Information Security
Berkshire Health Informatics Service
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From: CCSR [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 20 May 2004 16:26
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Subject: Re: DP and School Concerts
iirc the reasoning behind this kind of ban _is_ rather closer to a DP
concern. If there are children that are subject to custody disputes, then
the identification of them through such a means might in principle increase
their chances of being abducted. Myself, I would have thought that compared
to the danger of being filmed/followed on the way to or from the school, the
added danger was pretty minimal, but I can see a concern that is actually
related to privacy and DP (rather than absurd ideas that paedophiles might
be interested in the pictures).
Ben Fairweather
N Ben Fairweather PhD, Research Fellow | Tel: +44 116 207
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Centre for Computing and Social Responsibility | Centre: +44 116 250
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School of Computing, De Montfort University | Fax: +44 116 207
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On Thu, 20 May 2004, Norman Pottinger wrote:
> I'm sure we are all trying to be helpful and find a justification for
> stopping filming under DPA, but of course this is not actually a
decision
> based on DPA at all. It stems from child protection and the fact that
the
> "father" at the back with a video camera may be a paedophile and no
one is
> prepared to take the risk.
>
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