In message <000001c41cb0$b96ee190$063468d5@ntlworld>, ianwelton
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>So do the people objecting only belong to small minority groups?

Exactly. All societies have people with minority views. They are
entitled to their view, whether it's that the earth is flat or whatever.

>> It seems to make law abiding middle classes happier. For what
>> that's worth.
>
>I don't suppose they see anything to hide then.

They see that criminals have *more* to hide. And it's that balance of
power that makes them agree to the ID checks. Just as everyone (well
almost everyone) is happy to have their bags x-rayed at the airport.

>I refer to my previous comment:-  > And how can such use meet the DPA
>principle requirements, or should they be ignored for this particular
>matter?

Data should only be gathered and processed from the ID card in ways that
are compatible with DPA principles (which have law enforcement
exemptions, but I digress). So, for example, when you buy alcohol at the
supermarket they type in your DoB (which is all that actually matters)
and don't gather or process your name and address.

>But if they contain other material, for passport/DL they would surely have a
>chip incorporated within them.  And just think of all the opportunities made
>available then, both in the card and by the up to date and accurate data
>within the centralised database.  Very valuable information enabling all
>sorts of useful things I would imagine.  With passport travel information,
>driving material, medical information, and all other sorts of useful data
>held within chips on the card the value would be increased extensively.

What makes you think that private sector businesses will have the
equipment to read the data from the chip (or in the case of one of my ID
cards, the WORM, and in the case of another, a 2D "barcode" on the
back)? Or that even if they can read the data that it's not encrypted to
the original "owner" (passport office, hospital etc). I agree that the
proliferation of such readers is to be discouraged, and decryption
ability strongly discouraged.

--
Roland Perry

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