Chris has put the the glaring inconsistencies surrounding this and other
child 'welfare' issues in a nutshell.

        The angle seemed to be that as a society we are not being
consistent. On the
        one hand parents are responsible for the actions of their children
(anti social
        behaviour, truancy orders) but on the other don't have any say in
the welfare of
        their children in other circumstances such as young daughters being
prescribed
        the pill and having abortions.

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Jackie Leesons
Information Manager
Peterborough City Council
Tel: [01733] 452295


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Spray [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 13 May 2004 11:52
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Termination
>
> I haven't seen any papers today but the impression I have is this was
> raised by
> the mother. I agree with John that this is a Gillick competency issue
> (similar
> to the original Gillick case). The lawyer (I think she is acting for the
> mother) speaking on the Today programme said as much - that this was an
> ethical
> issue not a legal one. She said depending on clarification that the girl
> had
> been properly judged to have a full understanding of the consequences of
> her
> actions, the actions of the GP and school were legal and guidelines to
> schools
> etc had been followed.
>
> The angle seemed to be that as a society we are not being consistent. On
> the
> one hand parents are responsible for the actions of their children (anti
> social
> behaviour, truancy orders) but on the other don't have any say in the
> welfare of
> their children in other circumstances such as young daughters being
> prescribed
> the pill and having abortions.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Smith, Tony" <[log in to unmask]> on 13/05/2004 10:18:52
>
> Please respond to "Smith, Tony" <[log in to unmask]>
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> To: [log in to unmask]
> cc: (bcc: Christopher Spray/Group Compliance/South East/RAC Motoring
> Services)
>
> Subject: Re: [data-protection] Termination
>
>
>
> I would have thought that the data protection issue was not about the GP
> informing the parents but about the press publishing medical details - see
> the
> recent Naomi Campbell case.
>
> Tony
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Hughes [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 13 May 2004 10:08
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: FW: [data-protection] Termination
>
>
> I don't see why he should - it's a Gillick competency issue surely, in
> which
> the girl's GP makes a judgement as to the girl's maturity to decide for
> herself.
>
> Quite how journalists find this out and plaster it over the front pages of
> newspapers puzzles me ...... how do they know these things without someone
> telling them and wanting to court publicity - the girl herself, the
> parents?
> Did someone issue a press release?!?
>
> John Hughes
> Data Protection/Freedom of Information Officer
> Mayday Healthcare NHS Trust
> Tel: 020 8401 3000 ext. 5671
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Broom, Doreen [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 13 May 2004 09:43
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [data-protection] Termination
>
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> Hi All
>
> Heard on the news this morning that a girl of 14 had approached a Social
> Worker at school to say she was pregnant. They arranged a process of
> taking
> a pill - the first one had already been taken and the mother found out.
> Reasoned decision was made that the girl was of mature enough mind to
> enable
> her to make a reasoned decisin herself without her parents consent....
> Just
> wondered, will the DP get some more flak here?
> Dor
> Doreen Broom
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