Antoinette Carter on 26 May 2004 at 15:56 said:-
> I'm going to play devil's advocate here for a second, and say
[snip]
> If this particular Association's policy is to not
> house convicted criminals etc., then don't they have a right
> to ask people to prove that they meet their selection criteria?
I recall a not dissimilar situation where local housing officials had
determined they were going to support the Crime and Disorder Act and play
their part by refusing to house any person who had a criminal record, at the
same time evicting those who could be shown to not have informed them
regarding a court appearance or CRO record. Access to criminal records and
police custody type records was required for this. They were also going to
pass on all the information collected to any future agency offering housing
to the tenant, thereby moving crime out of the district.
Although I cannot now clearly recall the detail 'Procedural fairness', The
Housing Acts, the defined role of social landlords, HRA and the DPA
principles all had a part to play in resolving the situation.
Some may say there is no duty to provide accommodation for individuals.
Generally such statements seem to be interestingly tied in with a tightly
focused legal viewpoint and manipulation of some sort for the purposes of a
particular social group/cohort.
Ian W
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> I'm going to play devil's advocate here for a second, and say
> that if these are the rules that the Housing Association
> operates under then they have a right to ask these questions.
> I can remember a number of years ago applying to a shared
> ownership scheme run by a London housing association. The
> main criteria for applications was that you had earn under a
> certain salary, be a certain age, not have previously owned a
> property, not have capital in excess of £x, but have
> sufficient money to put down a deposit. If you couldn't tick
> each of those boxes, then your application would not be
> approved. If this particular Association's policy is to not
> house convicted criminals etc., then don't they have a right
> to ask people to prove that they meet their selection criteria?
>
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> Broom, Doreen
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> Yes - but that is my dilema - I am concerned as the form then
> goes on to state that they may ask the Police and all other
> authorities for information and if they sign they have their
> consent...that's why I am not sure this form is totally legal
> as they can obtain the information anyway. Also, if they
> then find there are convictions etc. does this mean they will
> then be discriminated against and thus wondered if other
> areas of law came into this? D
>
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> Sent: 26 May 2004 14:00
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> With the exception of the one about recently leaving
> a children's home, who is going to answer "yes" to any of
> these questions?
>
> Tony
>
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> Sorry - have just noticed but they are also asking
> future tenants to state that :
> 1. They have no history of ASB and no action
> pending by Police, prosecution authority etc.
> 2. They have no history of illegal drug supply
> or use and no convictions in relation thereto (what about
> prostitution, alcoholics etc - they forgot about them I think)
> 3. They have not recently left a children's
> home, prison or other institution
>
> This seems totally discriminatory to me and too much
> information. Is there something in Housing Law whch states
> that you can do all of these things?
>
> To me, this is not only DP but Human Rights and
> probably much more.................help?
> D
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