In that case it would seem probable that civil debtors are to be pursued via
their national insurance payment point.
Ian W
> -----Original Message-----
> From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection
> issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> Smith, Tony
> Sent: 12 October 2004 10:13
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: References: PQ's on National Insurance numbers etc
>
>
> Attachment of earnings orders have been around for years and
> have nothing to do with NINOs.
>
> Tony
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Ian Welton
> Sent: 12 October 2004 10:02
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: References: PQ's on National Insurance numbers etc
>
>
> Is it not a follow on from the sentence above that one:-
>
> "LCD proposes the introduction of a new Court Order, a Data Disclosure
> Order"
>
> So a court order which attaches fines to earnings would be legitimate.
>
> It would be interesting to know what date approval was
> granted, and how many
> attachments to earnings had been made up until that date.
>
> If the above is correct the control factor would appear to be
> the court. I
> suppose they have some guidance limiting when that power may
> be utilised.
>
> Ian W
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection
> > issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> > Smith, Tony
> > Sent: 12 October 2004 09:02
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: References: PQ's on National Insurance numbers etc
> >
> >
> > Where did this come from?
> >
> > For example:
> >
> > To improve the collection of civil debt where other legal steps to
> > recover debt have failed. LCD to collect information including NINO
> >
> > Does this mean that I can say to the LCD, for example, "Fred
> > Bloggs owes me money, will you give me his NINO"?
> >
> > That sounds frightening, if true.
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of DREW Nic
> > Sent: 11 October 2004 15:47
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: References: PQ's on National Insurance numbers etc
> >
> >
> > AUTHORISED USERS of NATIONAL INSURANCE NUMBERS
> >
> >
> >
> > Authorised User
> >
> > Proposed/Actual Use
> >
> > Reasons and Circumstances
> >
> > Approval granted pending suitable legal gateway
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Home Office
> >
> > Sex Offenders database
> >
> > To facilitate the identification & tracing of offenders who seek to
> > evade registration requirements
> >
> > Department of Health
> >
> > Protection of Children Act list
> >
> > To prevent individuals previously convicted or regarded as high risk
> > from work in the healthcare field
> >
> > Department for Education & Skills
> >
> > List 99 database
> >
> > To prevent individuals previously convicted or regarded as high risk
> > from work in the education field
> >
> > Lord Chancellors Department (LCD)
> >
> > LCD proposes the introduction of a new Court Order, a Data
> Disclosure
> > Order
> >
> > To improve the collection of civil debt where other legal steps to
> > recover debt have failed. LCD to collect information including NINO
> >
> > Approval Granted
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Criminal Records Bureau
> >
> > Pre-recruitment checks - use of NINO with customer consent
> - including
> > both employers and voluntary groups
> >
> > Used for checking purposes against DWP records. Provides safer
> > recruitment procedures for employers and voluntary groups in
> > particular
> > for those with responsibilities for the welfare of children &
> > vulnerable
> > adults
> >
> > UK Passport Agency
> >
> > For use in passport application checks - with customer consent
> >
> > To facilitate identity checks against DWP records as part of
> > more secure
> > passport issue arrangements
> >
> > Northern Ireland Electoral Office
> >
> > Use of NINO included within the Electoral Fraud (Northern
> Ireland) Act
> > 2002
> >
> > For use in connection with elections in Northern Ireland
> >
> > Disability Living Allowance & Schlumberger-Sema
> >
> > Use of NINO format identifier
> >
> > Facilitates the tracking of medical assessments relating to
> > DWP benefit
> > customers
> >
> > HM Customs & Excise
> >
> > Approved for use on VAT trader applications
> >
> > To assist in the verification of identity of persons
> applying for VAT
> > trader status
> >
> > Prescription Pricing Authority. Dental Practice Board. NHS Optical
> > Checks. NHS Counter -fraud
> >
> > Used to identify individuals seeking to evade payment of
> prescription
> > charges etc.
> >
> > Facilitates the tracing of those seeking to evade payment of
> > charges by
> > claiming to be in receipt of "passport" benefits
> >
> > Yorkshire & Humberside Government Office
> >
> > Used for allocation of European Training Grant purposes
> >
> > Facilitated the allocation of funds to individuals
> >
> > Cabinet Office
> >
> > Use of NINO for Civil Service staffing purposes
> >
> > Use of NINO for Civil Service staffing purposes
> >
> > BBC TV Licences
> >
> > Supported by legislation and with customer consent, provides for the
> > provision of free TV Licences to the over 75 age range
> >
> > Use of NINO used to establish entitlement provision to free
> TV Licence
> >
> >
> >
> > Nic
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roland Perry [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: 11 October 2004 15:15
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: References: PQ's on National Insurance numbers etc
> >
> >
> >
> > In message
> >
> > <[log in to unmask]
> > s.com>, at
> >
> > 11:49:06 on Mon, 11 Oct 2004, Pounder Chris
> <[log in to unmask]>
> >
> > writes
> >
> >
> >
> > >PQ 185952 NI No
> >
> >
> >
> > "To ask the Chancellor of the Exchequer what uses of the
> >
> > national insurance number other than those connected
> > with tax or
> >
> > benefits are authorised
> >
> >
> >
> > The which the answer is "Didn't we tell you once already?"
> and "Don't
> >
> > know, but we'll find the answer eventually and hide it away".
> >
> >
> >
> > "I refer to the Secretary of State for Work and Pensions
> >
> > response of 14 April 2003 to your previous
> question. Additions
> >
> > to the list of authorised users of the national
> > insurance number
> >
> > for non-tax or benefit purposes since that date
> will be placed
> >
> > in the Library.
> >
> >
> >
> > The "previous answer" being equally opaque:
> >
> >
> >
> > "The National Insurance number is an internal system index
> >
> > number used by Inland Revenue to record and
> reconcile tax and
> >
> > National Insurance, and by the Department of Work
> and Pensions
> >
> > to pay social security benefits and pensions.
> > National Insurance
> >
> > number policy is the joint responsibility of DWP and Inland
> >
> > Revenue.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Any exchange of information is governed by the terms of the
> >
> > 1998 Data Protection Act. Under certain, limited,
> > circumstances,
> >
> > the national insurance number can be used for other
> >
> > cross-government, public interest purposes. A full list of
> >
> > authorised users of the National Insurance Number for
> > non-tax or
> >
> > benefit purposes will be placed in the Library.
> >
> >
> >
> > <sigh> So we need a friendly MP to go and look it up in the
> Library...
> >
> > --
> >
> > Roland Perry
>
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