Well possibly, but I suspect a few Ed Psychs would give you an
argument. Also I've seen quite a few internal FE reports and have
not been particularly impressed. Nor have LEAs and DfES which
is why Ed Psych reports are usually and increasingly required. As
I stated before, confirming that someone has dyslexia should not
be taken lightly, it may allow a college to get some extra funding to
support the student, which is nice, but it is the student who has to
live with the presumption that they are dyslexic, when actually they
may not be.
On 13 Jun 03, at 14:17, Faye Langston wrote:
> Bryan
>
> Internal Assessors often have a better or at least the same
> understanding of how Dyslexia may affect student in HE as Educational
> Psychologists. Most non Ed Psych assessors are competent professionals
> highly qualified in their own field and fully able to support students
> through the diagnosis and provide detailed reports.
>
> Internal assessors have, in my experience, often given more detail and
> clarity within reports than some Educational Psychologists who charge
> at least £300 a time.
>
> Internal assessors have their place within the system alongside all
> other professionals involved in supporting students.
>
> Faye Langston
> Coventry University
>
> BRYAN JONES wrote:
> >
> > It's a little worrying the students are still being confirmed as
> > having dyslexia, which is something which should not be done
> > lightly, by internal assessors (who they?) without an assessment by
> > an Ed Psych at all. That aside, the Hardship fund, as others have
> > said, can be used to fund the diagnosis. The fund can start
> > supporting students from August, although students do have to be
> > enrolled in order to apply. One could possibly get the get the
> > agreement of whoever adminsisters the Hardship fund within an
> > institution that the cost of an assessment, undertaken in August or
> > September, would be reimbursed once the student has enrolled.
> >
> > On 13 Jun 03, at 12:38, Faye Langston wrote:
> >
> > > Keith
> > >
> > > I'm not a financey person but we have been told we cannot ring
> > > fence hardship funds and only eligible students can have funding
> > > for an Ed PSych - so am eager to work out how we can ring fence
> > > these funds as you seem to.
> > >
> > > Faye Langston
> > > Coventry University
> > >
> > > Keith Silvester wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Faye,
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, I was speaking in shorthand.... Our institution has
> > > > agreed that it will meet the cost of any (home) student taking
> > > > the test, which costs us currently £250 a go. We do not means
> > > > test the student, but they do have to 'physically' fill out a
> > > > short application form and apply for the Hardship Funds. The
> > > > Psych then invoices the institution direct, not the student.
> > > > (Hope this is worthy of the 'crystal mark'!)
> > > >
> > > > Keith
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Faye Langston [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > > > Sent: 13 June 2003 10:18
> > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > Subject: Re: Educational Psychologists reports for prospective
> > > > students
> > > >
> > > > Keith
> > > >
> > > > How does your hardship fund automatically pay for Ed Psych
> > > > reports? dont your students have to apply/be eligible?
> > > >
> > > > Faye Langston
> > > > Coventry University
> > > >
> > > > Keith Silvester wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, we undertake the 'full monty', using an outsourced psych
> > > > > who comes in every week. We know that LEAs won't accept
> > > > > anything less for DSA purposes. We pay it automatically from
> > > > > the Hardship Fund.
> > > > > The autumn term is the heavy period for testing. There are
> > > > > difficulties with students who want to be tested prior to
> > > > > enrolment, because we cannot use the Hardship Fund for them.
> > > > > So, I give them the choice - to get tested at their own
> > > > > expense prior to the course, or to wait till they're here.
> > > > >
> > > > > Keith Silvester
> > > > > Central School of Speech and Drama
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Faye Langston [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > > > > Sent: 12 June 2003 16:46
> > > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > > Subject: Educational Psychologists reports for prospective
> > > > > students
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello all,
> > > > >
> > > > > We have had queries from prospective students about the
> > > > > University financing Educational Psychologists tests for
> > > > > Dyslexia prior to the start of term - as now LEAs wont accept
> > > > > eligibility for DSA's without a full test.
> > > > >
> > > > > In the past our internal assessors reports have been
> > > > > acceptable to LEA's/NHS as well as FE colleges own internal
> > > > > assessors who are not Ed Psychs - this is now not the case so
> > > > > it appears there is a shortfall for students who may have to
> > > > > wait for a full Ed Psych test to be eligible for DSA who
> > > > > wouldnt previously have had to wait for DSA eligibility at
> > > > > all.
> > > > >
> > > > > Are any other University's facing enquiries such as these? How
> > > > > are Ed Psych reports funded at your institution? Here at
> > > > > Coventry students have either been tested internally which has
> > > > > previously been acceptable to LEA's/NHS or have to apply for
> > > > > the Hardship Fund and if they are eligible that can pay for an
> > > > > Ed Psych test - but that only happens once students are here
> > > > > on their course.
> > > > >
> > > > > Obviously the current set up will mean students needs not
> > > > > being able to be assessed over the summer and so support
> > > > > delayed considerably for those without Ed PSychs but with
> > > > > Dyslexia tests and so I am anxious to find out what other
> > > > > University's are now doing to fund Ed Psychs prior to the
> > > > > start of term so that DSA assessments can take place????
> > > > >
> > > > > Apologies to colleagues if the above doesn't make sense - its
> > > > > been one of those days!
> > > > >
> > > > > Many thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > Faye Langston
> > > > > Disabilities Welfare Co-ordinator
> > > > > Coventry University
> > > > > [log in to unmask]
> >
> > Bryan Jones
> > Disability Support Services Manager
> > Tel: 020 8411 5367
Bryan Jones
Disability Support Services Manager
Tel: 020 8411 5367
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