Actually, Bryan, this is a serious question. I'm looking at it very much as a psychotherapist. What is common that so-called 'high-achievers' may suffer from so-called borderline and narcissistic disorders to the extent that they cannot relate to others, or to their own feelings, and often make very poor judgements in terms of how to treat people and form relationships. It's usually a matter of deficient inner-reflective capacity, which can be improved with guidance. the 'celeb' world is full of these sorts of cases.
Keith Silvester
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From: BRYAN JONES [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 15 May 2003 17:17
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: dyslexia and changing IQ
Don't know Keith. But apparently listening to Mozart for ten
minutes or so can increase ones IQ a few notches for a while (I
believe your pyschologists call it the "Mozart Effect"). Perhaps we
should recommend a Mozart CD as well TextHelp.
My musical diet during the 70s probably has a lot to answer for.
On 15 May 03, at 14:15, Keith Silvester wrote:
> Well, what about emotional intelligence? Does anyone know how that's
> ever measured?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BRYAN JONES [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 15 May 2003 12:22
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: dyslexia and changing IQ
>
>
> I wondered about that as well. Did many of us participate in the BBCs
> Test the Nations IQ programme the other week I wonder? Not as bright
> as you thought, eh? Many of the IQ tests rely on the testee making an
> effort against the clock (i.e. under pressure). How much effort will
> be put in will often depend on your state of mind at the time and
> whether you can be bothered. I would probably have come out as a
> genius had it not been for the fact that I hardly ever do maths these
> days - and I'd had a drink, well that's my excuse.
>
> On 14 May 03, at 16:29, Ginny Stacey wrote:
>
> > I have just been reading the April version of the Guidance chapter 7
> > page 35 about dyslexia assessments and I wonder what anyone else
> > thinks about the statement that IQ doesn't change.
> >
> > I know the basic potential isn't supposed to change, but the tests
> > measure what you can do or have learnt rather than raw potential.
> > Suppose a child is identified as dyslexic in school and then has
> > regular tuition so that the key language skills are more or less in
> > place. This isn't a cure for dyslexia. You still have to work your
> > way round the effects of short-term memory problems, and various
> > other adult affects of dyslexia. However you can get language
> > stable enough to do really quite well in the literacy tests
> > available. I suspect that some adults will have literacy results
> > that when compared with child values of IQ make it look like the
> > dyslexia is no longer a problem and that if a new IQ test were done
> > the results would increase with the literacy skill increase. In
> > which case the difference between IQ and literacy would still be
> > evident.
> >
> > What research has been done? Is anyone doing any? What does anyone
> > else think?
> >
> > Ginny Stacey
> >
> > Dr Ginny Stacey
> > Support Tutor for Dyslexic Students
> >
> > Oxford Brookes University
> > Student Services
> > Helena Kennedy Student Centre, Headington HillCampus
> > Headington, Oxford OX3 0BP
> >
> > email: [log in to unmask]
> > tel: 01865 484659
>
>
> Bryan Jones
> Disability Support Services Manager
> Tel: 020 8411 5367
Bryan Jones
Disability Support Services Manager
Tel: 020 8411 5367
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