Well one is reading it anyway :)
Of course, Awards Officers "may" take the view that as DDA takes
precedence over Student Support Regs, ALL interpreting costs should be
met by the HEI under the provisions of reasonable adjustment.
Better be nice to us ;)
St.John Skeates
Awards Section
Bedfordshire County Council
Direct Line 01234 718744
-----Original Message-----
From: Baxter, Chris [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 10:13 AM
To: [log in to unmask]; Skeates,St.John DEAL Awards Tm
Subject: Re: 'reasonable adjustments' for student with insufficient DSA
This is quite a hot potato subject and one I feel sure we can debate at
the
CHESS meeting in Leeds on 3rd March.
There are five deaf students studying at NTU with varying degrees of
'class
contact' hours, however due the cost of providing interpreters from an
outside agency as well as local freelancers two of those students have
already used up their entire allowance (and one is £2,000) over in the
first
term.
We are just going to have to use Disability Mainstream funding to 'top
up'
the deficit.
What isn't helpful is that one students DSA assessment, done outside of
NTU,
has quoted her as 'requiring' something like 6 hours of interpreter
support
a week where 4 or 5 hours a day is more like it! I hope lots of LEA
officers
are reading this!
If we accept that a deaf student does not have access to the spoken word
except via an interpreter then wherever spoken instruction is used an
interpreter should be provided, having just a notetaker will not meet the
needs of many, although, as ever, the student should be consulted.
Remember you will need to show why it is not reasonable for the
institution
to meet the additional costs involved in supporting such students. And
lets
start campaigning again for a raise for NMH allowance specifically for
Deaf
students, looking at the real costs!
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Lloyd Richardson [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 12 February 2003 09:45
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: 'reasonable adjustments' for student with insufficient DSA
Hi Mary
You are right, 'none of the options seem satisfactory'. I am currently
dealing with someone who is completing an HND and who assures me that
her BSL interpreter and note-taker costs are entirely covered by her
DSA.
Yet with the transition to univeristy, she will (apparently) need
support costing around £22,000 (a local agency can provide a BSL
interpreter at £30 per hr. x 19 hrs. per week x 30+ weeks per year;
then there is the additional cost of the note-taker).
I have informed the applicant that the university is not turning down
her application but that it has no additional funds for support, of
which I am aware, to top up her DSA allowance.
At the same time I have asked the applicant to send me a copy of the
recommendations made when she had her Access Centre assessment, so that
I may see these for myself. The purpose here is to establish clearly
whether or not she has fairly and accurately represented the support
needs described in her assessment, rather than her own understanding of
them. (It is the historian in me...I have not yet seen an original
document, only someone else's interpretation of one, therefore I feel I
must be cautious. What a way to have to carry on!)
I realize this does not help, but you did invite comments on the
experiences of other institutions. That said, I wish you luck.
Lloyd Richardson
On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 17:28:16 +0000 Mary Norowzian
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> hello all,
>
> We are currently considering a number of applications from deaf
> students who require a full range of communication and notetaker
> support- with estimated costs of £22,000 per year- way over the
> DSA available. This is because the particular courses applied for
> have high contact hours, and the nature of the courses means full
> support is needed at all times.
>
> Grappling with 'reasonableness' what offer decisions are other
> insititutions making in such sitiuations?
> For example:
> 1)rejecting such applicants on the basis we cannot meet their
> support requirements even after making reasonable adjustments-
> enabling them to re apply thru UCAS
> or
> 2) making it a condition of offer that the student funds their own
> specialist support costs - ( meaning they pay the support costs
> after the DSA runs out) This on the basis that the support cost per
> student is not 'reasonable' for the HEI to pay.
> 3) as option 2 but with the University paying an amount( how
> much!) towards specialist support costs.
>
> None of these options seem satisfactory- any advice or
> expereinces from other insitutions is gratefully received.
> regards
>
> Mary Norowzian
> M.Norowzian
> Disability Coordinator/Counsellor
> Kingston University
> email [log in to unmask]
> 020 8547 7902
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Dr.Lloyd Richardson
Disability Adviser, Learning Support
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Student Support Services
Anglia Polytechnic University
East Road
Cambridge
CB1 1PT
01223 363271 ex 2434
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