What I'm saying is that there are a lot of LEA's who have a problem with
processing HE 1's for the sake of a DSA rather than a DSA for someone
who has already filled in a HE1 form if that makes any sense. Of course
this is something we fight whenever possible - I'm just letting other
people know about the problems I have found and problems that will be
more prolific for seconded students due to their different
circumstances. Some LEA's wont progress DSA's if HE1's arent filled in
by a certain timescale either - regardless of when the
Disability/difficulty arrises in a students course.
Faye Langston
Coventry University
disforum wrote:
>
> Every full-time undergraduate student has to complete the HEI application form before applying for the DSAs. This is not to means test the student, but simply for the student to show basic eligibility for support eg, meeting three year residency regulations, the course being designated etc. As long as the student meets the relevant criteria, they will be eligible for DSAs.
>
> DfES Bridging the Gap guide to Disabled Students Allowances (particularly pages 15-17) clarifies the application procedures for undergraduate and postgraduate students. It is available on the DfES website at:
>
> www.dfes.gov.uk/studentsupport/formsandguides/gui_guides.shtml
>
> This information about any seconded student (including NHS students) being able to get DSAs has been verified with the DfES. The real problem is the awareness of it. So please spread the word and help to ensure that disabled students get the right information and the support they need!
>
> Many thanks
>
> Dee Juneja
> Information and Research Worker
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Faye Langston [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 15 October 2003 14:51
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Nursing Diploma students
>
> Kate
>
> I understand that this is the theory and sounds great for those students
> who may miss out. But LEA's wont provide DSA support for students who
> haven't applied for financial support (by filling in the HE1 form) let
> alone NHS students!
>
> Faye Langston
> Coventry University
>
> Kate Goddard wrote:
> >
> > Skill has recently brought this issue up with the DfES, as it does seem unfair that seconded students on NHS courses are not able to get the NHS DSA, as they are not eligible for the NHS bursary. Even if students are receiving Access to Work, this will not address their study related needs, and also takes a long time for support to be put in place.
> >
> > The situation is that health care students who are eligible to receive NHS bursaries are excluded from receiving a DSA through the student support system. The NHS offer their own DSA to such students through the NHS bursary scheme. However, health care students who are employed by NHS trusts and seconded onto health care courses continue to receive their salary and are not eligible for NHS bursaries, so they cannot receive the NHS DSA.
> >
> > Since secondees are not eligible for NHS bursaries they are not excluded from student support, subject to their satisfying all the other eligibility criteria such as residency status etc. NHS secondees can therefore receive a DSA through the student support system.
> >
> > This means that students can apply to their LEA, although if they are receiving a salary they might only be eligible for the non-means tested elements of support. DSA is of course not subject to means testing. Seconded students can in theory receive DSA from their LEA.
> >
> > The problem with this is that when LEAs receive an application form from a student on an NHS course, they may automatically assume that it is not for them to deal with and reply to the student saying they should apply to the NHS Students Grant Unit. DfES will hopefully be putting a note about this in their next Student Support Update to remind colleagues in HEIs and LEAs of the situation. Skill will also be writing to NHS Student Grants Unit so that they also give appropriate advice to students.
> >
> > Kate Goddard
> > Policy Officer
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> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: BRYAN JONES [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:45 PM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Nursing Diploma students
> > >
> > > Some Nursing Dipploma students get bursaries and are now
> > > eligible for DSA. Some students on the same course do not
> > > receive these bursaries as they are doing to course through their
> > > employer, so are not eligible foe DSA. Has anyone out there ever
> > > tried or been sucessful in obtaining Access to Work support for
> > > such Nursing students, particularly those who are dyslexic?
> > >
> > > Bryan Jones
> > > Disability Support Services Manager
> > > Tel: 020 8411 5367
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