Welcome Lloyd!
(Other listmembers may not have noticed that I am being bated by a
colleague here).
Just to be ever more fatuous, perhaps, I'll state my gratitude to Dr.
Gerry Finn for explaining to me there is no such thing as common sense,
only competing ideologies which are so entrenched that the belief that
"everyone" believes this or that or the next thing, suitable to an
individual ideology's purpose, is one of the simplest ways of imposing
the belief on others.
So there.
Iain
On Fri, 29 Nov 2002 08:41:25 +0000 Lloyd Richardson
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> Iain,
>
> You seem to have injected an element of common sense into the debate
> (i.e., 'qualifications' are more relevant than IQ when it comes to
> enrolling dyslexic students on courses). Is this not a risky approach
> in the Fatuous Forum?
>
> Lloyd
> On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 16:05:53 +0000 Iain Hood <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > We would definitely get ourselves into trouble with certain students
> > with Asperger's syndrome, who might score in the 85ish range but may
> > still do fine in HE (IQ tests are not only used to assess dyslexia,
> > though I do realise that was what we were discussing).
> >
> > IQs are a very rough reckoner, let's face it, and only part of what a
> > full diagnostic assessment is about.
> >
> > The bottom line is, it doesn't matter how you score re:IQ (certainly
> > not the full scale): it matters what qualifications you have to be on a
> > course. No?
> >
> > Iain
> >
> >
> > > Are you suggesting that a dyslexia diagnosis should be tied to a
> > > minimum IQ, or that a student with dyslexia should have an IQ of at
> > > least, say 90, to enter HE?
> > >
> > > The former would involve redefining dyslexia (or adhering rigidly to
> > an > existing discrepancy-based definition). The latter would be
> > > discriminatory - unless, we test the IQ of all university entrants. >
> > > A minefield, indeed. > > I am a little uneasy about tone and content
> > of some exchanges on this > issue (on this and other forums). I sense
> > a degree of panic - and what > could easily be interpreted as prejudice
> > against those with dyslexia. > > I recognise that there are
> > difficulties and that the pressure on the > DSA is likely to increase
> > as demand continues to rise. I feel we > should beware though of
> > knee-jerk responses rooted in a sort of quasi- > science based on
> > subjective impressions. > > I'd suggest that it is possible to chalk up
> > an IQ of 85 on the WAIS (or > other measure) and still be dyslexic.
> > Further there are no rules > prohibiting a student with an IQ of 75
> > from taking up undergaduate > study. I really don't think it's a good
> > idea - but it is certainly not > for me (or anyone on this forum) to
> > close the gates on any individual. > > Regards > > Peter Hill > > > --
> >
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