That is a way of dealing superficially with the issue. But...
Do the "contents" include the addressing and routing material? e.g. e-mail
address.
If so why do the group data controllers not also publish details of the
e-mail addresses of whom the e-mails were transmitted to, along with who the
sender was, as that information is equally pertinent to each particular
e-mail?
Ian W
> -----Original Message-----
> From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Colette Healiss
> Sent: 01 February 2002 08:57
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: JISCMail data controller. (was : Email Address Personal
> Informati on?)
>
>
> I think the easiest course of action for such data
> controllers as web based
> mailing lists and newsgroups etc is for them to state clearly on their
> initial membership screen the status of the list/group and whether the
> contents will be stored as a publicly accessible archive, and
> get people
> joining the group to indicate that they have read and accepted the
> conditions on the site by ticking a box or something of the
> kind before
> they can join.
>
>
>
>
>
> Ian Welton
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> AIL.AC.UK>
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>
> 31/01/2002 20:15
> Please respond to Ian
> Welton
>
>
>
>
>
>
> An earlier e-mail on another thread (Data Subject Access
> Requests & Police
> Referrals) also links through to this thread. (Funny how much
> commonality
> exists.)
>
> Who is the data controller of an e-mail? According to
> INTERNET ISPs' the
> originator or recipient is.
>
> Accepting that view, and with JISCMAIL.AC.UK being a
> recipient as well as
> an
> originator they must be the data controller of the e-mails
> sent to and sent
> by them.
>
> That being so, what is adequate relevant and not excessive
> for the purpose
> of maintaining an archive 'for the purpose the archive is
> maintained'?....
> Some circularity then begins to appear in the argument as
> there may be more
> than one purpose for the archive.
>
> If the purpose regards generic data protection, or any other
> issue, then
> the
> majority of newsgroup of mail base type functions, by
> retaining the header
> information, rather than merely the body of the text, may be breaching
> principle.
>
> If the purpose is an historical record or for academic
> research then other
> issues arise.
>
> And that's before you start to think about how long it is
> necessary for the
> purpose.
>
> How do providers such as Google Groups then sit?
>
> Interesting....
>
> Ian W
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Lloyd M J
> > B (ISELS)
> > Sent: 31 January 2002 14:31
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: JISCMail data controller. (was : Email Address Personal
> > Informati on?)
> >
> >
> > > ----------
> > > From: Steve Lay
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 11:03 AM
> > >
> > > Out of interest, which registrations actually relate
> directly to the
> > > running of this list? Presumably Z5545994 does as this is CCLRC's
> > > registration and they run JISCMail (which Purpose are we,
> > "Information and
> > > Databank Administration"?). Does the registration of the
> > list owner have
> > > an impact on the list?
> > >
> > >
> > Another interesting point is: who is the data controller? I
> > understand that
> > CCLRC have a contract from JISC to run this service. What is
> > JISC's status.
> > Is JISC the data controller?
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike Lloyd
> >
> > Assistant Head (ISELS)
> > ISELS
> > University of Glamorgan
> > Llantwit Road
> > Treforest
> > Pontypridd CF37 1DL
> >
> > tel: 01443 482417
> > fax: 01443 482424
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