Chris is a valued and active list member and his contributions are of
enormous benefit to many of us, even to those of us, like myself, who do not
usually respond directly - please do not jeopardise that through
pettiness. I haven't been on any of the courses (yet) but I want to know
about them, just as I haven't replied to any of the job offers that are
posted, but I want to know about them too, for a variety of complex reasons.
Jeannie Forbes
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-----Original Message-----
From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of STEIN R.D.
Sent: 04 October 2001 09:54
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Do you want our latest Data Protection Course leaflet
[Frankl y I do not]
My reply to the question
"Should this list allow members to make commercial offers to list members"
would be no. However, I can see that there might be a case for exceptions.
The posting by Chris Pounder falls into this category, as have a few of the
previous postings. The posting was clearly relevant to the purposes of the
list
(in my opinion).
Personally I am happy with the list as it stands, and with the fact that we
have
a list owner who can take action when there are any problems.
Roger Stein
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trent,Tim [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 04 October 2001 09:38
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Do you want our latest Data Protection Course leaflet
> [Frankl y I do not]
>
> I could send this as a reply to any of the people who have emailed me,
> publicly or privately. I have not chosen yours specifically.
>
> I do not comment on the quality of an offering. I comment on the fact
> that
> the list is being used as a vehicle for commercial considerations. My
> belief is that this list was not created as a vehicle to allow ANY member,
> whatever the merits of their commercial offering, to offer their products
> and services to members.
>
> Whatever the merits of this particular offering, they are not relevant to
> the discussion, neither, I believe is the obvious expertise of this
> offerer.
> Instead I am looking at the principle below:
>
>
> "Should this list allow members to make commercial offers to list members"
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lloyd M J B (ISELS) [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 04 October 2001 09:17
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: FW: Do you want our latest Data Protection Course leaflet
> [Frankl y I do not]
>
>
> No, I do not agree.
>
> I am always interested in the courses advertised by Masons. When I started
> in this role many years ago, I went on courses run by Chris Pounder and
> Freddy Kosten, at Hoskyns at the time.
>
> The advice given by Chris to the list has been invaluable, and I have
> never
> found him to push his courses at us. We can make our decisions on whether
> to
> go.
>
>
>
>
> Mike Lloyd
>
> Assistant Head (ISELS)
> ISELS
> University of Glamorgan
> Llantwit Road
> Treforest
> Pontypridd CF37 1DL
>
> tel: 01443 482417
> fax: 01443 482424
> email: [log in to unmask]
>
>
>
> > ----------
> > From: Trent,Tim
> > Reply To: Trent,Tim
> > Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2001 9:07 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Do you want our latest Data Protection Course leaflet
> > [Frankl y I do not]
> >
> > You know, I didn't think, really, that this list was intended for people
> > to
> > push their services. I may be in the minority, I suppose.
> >
> > What I have joined this list for is both to contribute where I have
> > knowledge, and learn where I have none.
> >
> > I find people offering jobs of interest, and yet think that issue to be
> at
> > the borderline of acceptability.
> >
> > I had the choice to keep my reply personal to the sender, private to the
> > moderator, or public. I chose public, because I feel a brisk, brief
> > debate
> > is in order. Others may disagree.
> >
> > I am content if we create a website, for example, where those of us with
> > commercial propositions we feel to be of interest my register such
> > propositions, and create (under a webmaster's control) links to
> > appropriate
> > places, but I do not see this list as being the place for commercial
> > advertising.
> >
> > _____________________________________________________________
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> > Gartner in any way.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: 03 October 2001 18:21
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Do you want our latest Data Protection Course leaflet (upto
> > Easter 2002)?
> >
> >
> > If you want our latest training course leaflets please respond to this
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> >
> > If you want our non-training course leaflets please state this in your
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> >
> > Ta
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