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Re: Digest of dis-forum - volume 1 #652

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Mon, 14 Aug 2000 22:52:46 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)

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Jobs for people with disabilities:
For the past eight years (until coming into this post)  75% of the 
people i recruited as either paid or unpaid staff were disabled people. 
As well as using the local DEAs, it is a good idea to get into the 
network of local organisations who are training disabled people for 
employment or who are helping them with job searches i.e. organisations 
like the RBLI, or specialist recruitment agencies.  Find out how the 
local networks of organisations "of" disabled people work and use them 
i.e. advertise in their newsletters.  Disability Now is good but 
expensive.  Also having the "Positive about Disabled People" logo (see 
your local DEA for advice on how to achieve this) does indicate to 
potential employees that the employer has the right attitude. 
Hope this helps.

On Sat, 12 Aug 2000 04:17:37 +0100 (BST) 
[log in to unmask] wrote:

> Subjects of messages in this digest:
> 
> 	Eligibility criteria for DSA
> 	Re: DSAs & photocopying
> 	Re: Eligibility criteria for DSA
> 	jobs for people with disabilities
> 	Re: jobs for people with disabilities
> 	Re: DSAs & photocopying
> 	LEAs and disabled students
> 	telephone answering machines
> 	RE: telephone answering machines
> 	Re: telephone answering machines
> 	Re: telephone answering machines
> 	RE: telephone answering machines
> 	sharing the sushi
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 09:22:30 +0100
> From: "Sheila Blankfield" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Eligibility criteria for DSA
> Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]>
> 
> Thanks for all your input on my query. 
> 
> A luta continua - the fight goes on.
> 
> Sheila
> 
> Sheila Blankfield
> Learning Support Officer
> Edge Hill
> St. Helen's Road
> Ormskirk L39 4QP
> 
> 01695 584372
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 10:37:44 BST
> From: "Elaine Shillcock" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: DSAs & photocopying
> Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]>
> 
> If a student needs handouts copying to 'headline' size, it will be 
> very bulky and difficult to work with, organise, file, revise etc, 
> in practice.  Have you considered any alternatives?  A CCTV might be 
> an option.  There are portable models that could be used in a lecture 
> itself, or the desktop type for more prolonged work.
> 
> Elaine
> 
> > 
> > A student needs 'headline' lecture notes, estimated at about 3000
> > photocopied pages per year. Should the DSA pay for these, or should
> > his department? Or should they both make a contribution?
> > 
> > Sue
> > 
> > 
> > **********************************************************
> > Sue Green
> > Disability Co-Ordinator
> > Student Support & Counselling Service
> > The University of Birmingham
> > Edgbaston
> > B15 2TT
> > Tel 0121 414 5130
> > Minicom 0121 414 6445
> > email [log in to unmask]
> Elaine Shillcock
> University Co-ordinator for Disability Developments
> The University of Manchester
> Oxford Road
> Manchester M13 9PL
> 
> Tel 0161 275 2051
> Fax 0161 275 2407
> email [log in to unmask]
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 10:58:19 +0100
> From: "Debbie Gibberd" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Eligibility criteria for DSA
> Message-Id: <E13NBY3-0000c8-00@mailswitch>
> 
> 
> 
> >A luta continua - the fight goes on.
> 
> 
> I say, I say,I say
> 
> 
> isnt that a bit, hurumph <italic>political </italic>for this assembly - 
> 
> you'll have them getting their bi-focals steamed up and spilling 
> their tea in the home counties!
> 
> you'll get yourself a <italic>reputation</italic>, Ms Blankfield!!
> 
> 
> Vittoria e certa
> 
> 
> actually I had a sushi dinner in trendy clerkenwell last night with 
> a south african friend, who's just been home to jo'burg and 
> says that after a gap of a year things are noticably more and 
> more tense, streets empty downtown in the evening, and whites 
> wondering just how long they can hold out before 
> leaving.....such a difficult transition period post-apartheid 
> creating a real one nation that allows everyone a place.
> 
> 
> 
> <nofill>
> Debbie Gibberd
> City University Disability Officer
> Northampton Square, London EC1V0HB
> 
> 020 7477 8806 voice and minicom
> 020 7477 8592 fax
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 11:51:08 +0100
> From: "Ian Francis" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: jobs for people with disabilities
> Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]>
> 
> Hi all
> I've been asked by someone who is keen to recruit people with 
> disabilities where is the best place to advertise. Any ideas? 
> 
> Ian Francis
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Ian Francis
> Disability Coordinator
> Queen Mary & Westfield College
> University of London
> London E1 4NS
> Tel +44 20 7882 5175 Text +44 20 7882 3132 
> Fax +44 20 7882 3617 Email [log in to unmask]
> http://www.admin.qmw.ac.uk/welfare
> Listowner: [log in to unmask]
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 12:25:21 +0000
> From: "Claire Dowling" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: jobs for people with disabilities
> Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]>
> 
> > Date:          Fri, 11 Aug 2000 11:51:08 +0100
> > Reply-to:      [log in to unmask]
> > Priority:      normal
> > Subject:       jobs for people with disabilities
> > From:          "Ian Francis" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To:            [log in to unmask]
> 
> > Hi all
> > I've been asked by someone who is keen to recruit people with 
> > disabilities where is the best place to advertise. Any ideas? 
> > 
> > Ian Francis
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Ian Francis
> > Disability Coordinator
> > Queen Mary & Westfield College
> > University of London
> > London E1 4NS
> > Tel +44 20 7882 5175 Text +44 20 7882 3132 
> > Fax +44 20 7882 3617 Email [log in to unmask]
> > http://www.admin.qmw.ac.uk/welfare
> > Listowner: [log in to unmask]
> > 
> 
> Disability NOW seems to be a popular magazine and I have seen several 
> job adverts in there. Some Job centres have a disability adviser that 
> work at getting people into employment so that could also be a 
> starting point.
> Regards
> Claire Dowling
> Student Adviser
> University of Teesside
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 12:47:36 +0100
> From: Peter Hill <[log in to unmask]>
> To: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: DSAs & photocopying
> Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]>
> 
> Hi
> 
> Elaine Shillcock wrote:
> 
> > If a student needs handouts copying to 'headline' size, it will be
> > very bulky and difficult to work with, organise, file, revise etc,
> > in practice.  Have you considered any alternatives?  A CCTV might be
> > an option.  There are portable models that could be used in a lecture
> > itself, or the desktop type for more prolonged work.
> >
> 
> Another alternative is to have handouts provided on 'floppy' disk so the
> student can use a screen reader and/or magnification package.  He/she
> will also be able to print off at the desired size.  Of course this is
> less straightforward where copies of journal articles are concerned -
> even though it's possible to scan and OCR them.
> 
> On a related issue: we recently played host to a group of visually
> impaired students from a local RNIB college.  These were fist year sixth
> form students thinking about their options for 2001.  I asked them about
> access to text - in particular how they preferred to have material
> presented digitally.  I am concerned to present our own online material
> in a way that makes the 'bits of interest' easy to get at, and I assume
> the way to do this is to provide a hypertext contents list at the head of
> the document.  My query was met with a row of blank expressions.  The
> briallists use braille and the others use CCTV and enlarged fonts on
> paper.  I had anticipated that these students would be ahead of the game
> and would be able to educate me.  Am I missing something?
> 
> Regards
> --
> Peter Hill
> Disability Co-ordinator
> University College Worcester (UK)
> Tel: 01905 855413
> Email: [log in to unmask]
> or      [log in to unmask]
> http://www.worc.ac.uk/services/equalopps/index.htm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 13:42:01 +0100
> From: "David Laycock" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: LEAs and disabled students
> Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]>
> 
> I picked up a fascinating attachment from another list, senco-
> forum, yesterday. The file is 31 pages long and is the final 
> summary of judgments in the Lords of four cases of appeals 
> against LEAs for their treatment of disabled children. Those who 
> have joined in the recent discussion on eligibility criteria may find it 
> of interest. Despite its dry sound I found it very readable.
> 
> Since Paul doesn't like dis-forum members sending big 
> attachments to the list (because you stroppy lot have a go at him 
> when people do) I've asked him to post it to a web site. Which is
> 
> http://www.wmin.ac.uk/ccpd/docs/legaljudge.doc
> 
> The particular definition of dyslexia used on p3- a reading difficulty 
> taken from a document from the 60s- is revealing.
> 
> Also, the best known case, Phelps, a young woman who sued 
> Hillingdon for failing to recognise her dyslexia while at school has 
> some interesting points. The original judgement, which Phelps 
> won, concentrated on the failure of the Hillingdon to identify the 
> condition and deal with it. 
> 
> In fact, the text shows the resident ed psych applied the ACID 
> profile and so must have made some use of the WAIS to conclude 
> the student was not dyslexic. The judgement suggests she then 
> failed to apply the Bangor test which would have revealed the 
> condition. I cannot imagine why any ed psych would apply the 
> Bangor test to confirm or deny the results of the WAIS. 
> Subsequently, at the parents' expense she was referred to an 
> independent ed psych who decided she was dyslexic.
> 
> The original judgement in her favour clearly shows the court 
> decided the positive finding was the right one and previous 
> decisions were wrong. 
> 
> Given that lawyers claim the DDA is full of ambiguities that only 
> case law can clarify, anyone thinking of re-training as a lawyer 
> couldn't pick a better time.
> 
> Ms Phelps won her court case but lost the appeal. The reasons 
> included an interpretation of the duties of care of the ed psych to 
> the Hillingdon LEA and teachers and the student, together with a 
> comment questioning whether, had she been recognised, the 
> results would have been much different. This was less harsh than it 
> sounds as the student did receive study support- but not as a 
> dyslexic. 
> 
> Happy reading
> 
> 
> Dave Laycock
> 
> Head of CCPD
> Computer Centre for People with Disabilities
> University of Westminster
> 72 Great Portland Street
> London W1N 5AL
> 
> tel. 020 7911-5161
> fax. 020 7911-5162
> WWW home page: http://www.wmin.ac.uk/ccpd/
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:54:57 +0000
> From: Clare Davies <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: telephone answering machines
> Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]>
> 
> Can anyone recommend a telephone answering machine that allows messages to
> be received via a telephone receiver - thus permitting use of an amplifier
> by a hard of hearing person?
> 
> BT Call Minder provides this option in a domestic situation, but a colleage
> needs appropriate equipment for use in an office environment where all calls
> come via a switchboard.
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Clare
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:45:11 +0100
> From: "O'callaghan, L" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: RE: telephone answering machines
> Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]>
> 
> Does your institute have voicemail facilities?  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	Clare Davies [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent:	11 August 2000 15:55
> > To:	[log in to unmask]
> > Subject:	telephone answering machines
> > 
> > Can anyone recommend a telephone answering machine that allows messages to
> > be received via a telephone receiver - thus permitting use of an amplifier
> > by a hard of hearing person?
> > 
> > BT Call Minder provides this option in a domestic situation, but a
> > colleage
> > needs appropriate equipment for use in an office environment where all
> > calls
> > come via a switchboard.
> > 
> > Many thanks,
> > 
> > Clare
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:50:15 +0100
> From: "Debbie Gibberd" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: telephone answering machines
> Message-Id: <E13NFAW-0004Zt-00@mailswitch>
> 
> Voicemail works remotely of the phone equipment and is used 
> 'down the handset' like the BT system - can the switchboard 
> support voicemail?
> Debbie Gibberd
> City University Disability Officer
> Northampton Square, London EC1V0HB
> 
> 020 7477 8806 voice and minicom
> 020 7477 8592 fax
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 15:19:09 +0100
> From: "Adrian Higginbotham" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: telephone answering machines
> Message-Id: <001301c0039f$1e9a83a0$98c4fc3e@higg>
> 
> theres  bt call minder
> or how about a personal number, they usually have a voice mail feature
> 
> Adrian Higginbotham.
> 
> SURFACE:   Salford University, Research Focus on AcCessible Environments.
> E-mail:  [log in to unmask]
> tel:  0161-2954939
> fax:  0161-2955011
> textphone  0161-2953599 
> web:  www.scpm.salford.ac.uk/surface/
> 
> DogFishDiving,
> scuba diving for the visually impaired.
> web: www.dogfishdiving.co.uk/
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Debbie Gibberd <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 2:50 PM
> Subject: Re: telephone answering machines
> 
> 
> > Voicemail works remotely of the phone equipment and is used 
> > 'down the handset' like the BT system - can the switchboard 
> > support voicemail?
> > Debbie Gibberd
> > City University Disability Officer
> > Northampton Square, London EC1V0HB
> > 
> > 020 7477 8806 voice and minicom
> > 020 7477 8592 fax
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 16:55:52 +0100
> From: [log in to unmask]
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: RE: telephone answering machines
> Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]>
> 
> Clare
> 
> Many (most?) answering machines allow messages to be collected remotely. If
> your colleague were to pick up another extension and dial the answering
> machine he/she could pick them up that way and make use of the handset
> amplifier.
> 
> Phil
> 
> Phil Satchell - Technical Project Officer 
> Office for Students with Disabilities, The Open University
> +44 (0)1908-858214
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	Clare Davies [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent:	Friday, August 11, 2000 3:55 PM
> > To:	[log in to unmask]
> > Subject:	telephone answering machines
> > 
> > Can anyone recommend a telephone answering machine that allows messages to
> > be received via a telephone receiver - thus permitting use of an amplifier
> > by a hard of hearing person?
> > 
> > BT Call Minder provides this option in a domestic situation, but a
> > colleage
> > needs appropriate equipment for use in an office environment where all
> > calls
> > come via a switchboard.
> > 
> > Many thanks,
> > 
> > Clare
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:38:27 +0100
> From: "Debbie Gibberd" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: sharing the sushi
> Message-Id: <E13NHnI-0007m4-00@mailswitch>
> 
> Sorry all for mailing a private missive to Sheila to the whole 
> forum.....And anyone who wants to discuss South African 
> politics is welcome to do so with either of us privately!! 
>  
> > >A luta continua - the fight goes on.  
> >  
> > I say, I say,I say  
> >  
> > isnt that a bit, hurumph political for this assembly -   
> > you'll have them getting their bi-focals steamed up and 
> spilling   
> > their tea in the home counties!  
> > you'll get yourself a reputation, Ms Blankfield!!  
> >  
> > Vittoria e certa  
> >  
> > actually I had a sushi dinner in trendy clerkenwell last night 
> with  
> >  a south african friend, who's just been home to jo'burg and   
> > says that after a gap of a year things are noticably more and  
>  
> > more tense, streets empty downtown in the evening, and 
> whites  
> >  wondering just how long they can hold out before   
> > leaving.....such a difficult transition period post-apartheid   
> > creating a real one nation that allows everyone a place.  
> Debbie Gibberd
> City University Disability Officer
> Northampton Square, London EC1V0HB
> 
> 020 7477 8806 voice and minicom
> 020 7477 8592 fax
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 

Margaret Scott
Disability Adviser
Canterbury Christ Church University College
Telephone and textphone: 01227 782842-------------------
[log in to unmask]



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