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Re: Migration Watch - As is so often the case, this is not reallyjust about numbers.

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Ray Thomas <[log in to unmask]>

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Ray Thomas <[log in to unmask]>

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Wed, 25 Aug 2004 15:32:53 +0100

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In his message addressed to me for the second time David Gordon includes,
immediately below my name, parts of messages from other people.   Can your
correct this misleading and confusing message Dave?

Dave Gordon identifies himself as the author of an apparently libellious
message.    I don't want to repeat an apparently libellious message here.
But it can easily be found with a search for 'obnoxious' 'paedophila' and
'presumed'

I think that such messages do inhibit discussion on the list.  Would you
consider withdrawing that message Dave?

Ray Thomas
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-----    Original Message -----
From: "Dave Gordon" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 1:40 AM
Subject: Re: Migration Watch - As is so often the case, this is not
reallyjust about numbers.


> Ray
>
> Just what do you mean by 'libellous message'?  Chris Brand was sacked
> for gross misconduct for his actions and statements on pedophiles - he
> has repeated these statements on several occasions and stands by them.
> In what way are you suggesting my e-mail was libellous? and not good for
> the reputation of Radstats?  Do you think I should just have let Alan
> Truelove's comments about Chris Brand being 'dumped on' pass on the list
> without comment?  Would it be good for Radstats to let apologists for
> pedophilia go unchallenged?
>
> I think we should continue this e-mail exchange off-list as it will be
> of little interest to most of the 'long suffering' e-mail list subscribers
>
> Dave Gordon
>
>
> Ray Thomas wrote:
>
> >>I do not think it is useful to make vague allegations such as:
> >>"Is it just me or does anyone else suspect that there have been as many
> >>dodgy uses of data in some of the recent radstats postings as there
might
> >> be on the migrationwatch website?
> >>
> >>Which person or persons are you referring to? Which specific data do you
> >>allege has been treated in a dodgy way?
> >>If you wish to criticise, which is perfectly fair, I think it is best
to
> >>call a spade a spade or else not to say anything.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >The problem seems to be that anyone who speaks out on this list risks
about
> >migration runs the risk of being the subject of a diatribe of statistics
and
> >being called a supporter of the abuse of children.  Not good for the
> >reputation of Radstats.   I'm a bit surprised that an apparently
libellous
> >message was not removed by the list owner.    It seems to be safer at the
> >moment to call a spade a sexual pervert! than to stick the head above a
> >statistical parapet.
> >
> >Did anyone find the allegedly pornographic image?      I only saw images
of
> >beautiful women.    Did I miss something?
> >
> >Ray Thomas
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>
> --
> Dave Gordon
> Townsend Centre for International Poverty Research
> University of Bristol
> 8 Priory Road
> Bristol BS8 1TZ, UK
>
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