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Re: Course invitation: UDC

From:

Aida Slavic <[log in to unmask]>

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The Forum for Information Standards in Heritage (FISH)

Date:

Wed, 14 May 2003 18:38:54 +0100

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Neil,

The choice of how to organize resources (by content,inner form, outer form)
is entirely arbitrary, and is rather the issue of an
implementation and indexing policy. UDC is designed to support
any such approach.
Classification allows aggregation and combination of aggregations
by different principles and all depends what you want to group together.
In UDC you can combine the following 'aggregations principles' so to speak
- document  form (book), format (digital) or carrier (CDROM)
- content: subject  (Archeology), form of presentation (map)

In UDC you can use different categories of numbers to state
these elements above:  as standalone or in combination and this is not
imposed
or limited by the system itself.
In this respect UDC is entirely different from Dewey, Library
of Congress, or any other well known general classification
system that are built for library shelf organization and impose
strict linear ordering by discipline.

In UDC all elements are repeatable/optional.
There are some 'warmly recommended'
rules for citation order of combined index terms (i.e. which type
of number goes first, which second in any combined sequences) and
also you have rules forfiling order if you want to achieve ordering
of resources from general to specific - irrespective
the number of elements combined.
(simple numbers don't need rules as they are sorted by decimal
notation form general to specific)

All of the following examples are perfectly legitimate in UDC:

- to form class of Cartographic maps (084.3)
(and organize them withing that group alpahbetically, size, colour etc.

-to form class of cartographic maps organized by place
(084.3-14.032)(410.111.11)Digital image of topographic survey maps of
City of Westminster.

-to form class of discipline and time, place, inner form, outer form

94"182"(411.111.11)(093)(084.3-37)
History of City of Westminster-- (time)1820s -- historical sources -- survey
map

but you can make it less specific by shortening the numbers :
94"18"(410)(093)(084)
History of Britain - 19th century -historical source -map

NB! Classification is not meant to be used in an automated environment
without
proper tools (authority files) which would allow re-use of already
precombined
indexing terms and help you avoid retyping of numbers and cumbersome
notation
At the user-end this should also be completely hidden and replaced by visual
hierarchical
display of subject/form descriptions end easy transition from term search to
browsing...

hope this helps and is not entirely out of place for the others,
some points here are not relevant only for UDC but for the functions that
one may expect from any knowledge organization system.

aida

-----Original Message-----
From: The Forum for Information Standards in Heritage (FISH)
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Neil Campling
Sent: 14 May 2003 15:03
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [FISH] Course invitation: UDC


Dear Ms Slavic,

Just a quick query: how does one choose whether or not the classification
number should be created by document form or document content?  Is this
arbitrary or are there standard rules for choosing how best to classify text
documents?
Cheers,
Neil Campling


>>> [log in to unmask] 14/05/2003 14:15:19 >>>
Neil,
The answer is yes. It can be used and is used in many document centres for
grey literature.
UDC has quite extensive vocabulary for both document forms and document
carriers
descriptions, that may be applied together with subject descriptions or
without it
e.g.
(047)           Reports. Notices. Bulletins
(047.1) Progress reports
(047.32)        Management and administrative reports
or

(088.4)  Contracts. Written agreements
etc.
This can be used together with the format of document
(0.03) Handwritten documents
(0.034.2) Digital documents
(0.034.2DOC) Word documents
etc.
so you can say

(047.1.034.2DOC) Progress reports as a word document
(047.1.03) Handwritten progress report

but if you want to state a SUBJECT then you can use e.g. Management
schedules
combined with any form
005.3 Management activities

005.3(047.1.03) Management activites -- progress reports -- handwritten

Aida

-----Original Message-----
From: The Forum for Information Standards in Heritage (FISH)
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Neil Campling
Sent: 14 May 2003 13:29
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [FISH] Course invitation: UDC


Dear Ed,

Thanks for your reply; I actually got a reply from one of my own staff too!
Can I ask if any heritage person or organisation in UK has started to file
their grey literature reports using the system ?

And just another point to make:
About 12-15 months ago, I put round an enquiry on SMRForum and FISH asking
for a numerical system for the organisation of our library and parish files.
I got about as many responses as for my UDC query (3), but none mentioned
the UDC.  So if UDC has been going for so long, how come nobody thought to
mention it a year ago ?

Cheers,
Neil


>>> [log in to unmask] 13/05/2003 16:20:48 >>>
Hi Neil,

The UDC website that Aida mentioned in her invitation gives a good
introduction to the system at http://www.udcc.org/about.htm. "Universal
Decimal Classification (UDC) is the world's foremost multilingual
classification scheme for all fields of knowledge, a sophisticated indexing
and retrieval tool".

Number based indexing schemes have the advantage of being language
independent, which does facilitate international co-operation, but at some
point the concept behind a general classification such as '56:
Palaeontology' needs to be defined - and at that point you're back to
language, with all the translation problems etc.

Decimal systems are also (as far as I'm aware - and I hasten to add I'm no
expert!) organised with a single hierarchy, rather than the greater
flexibility of a polyhierarchical thesaurus structure.

Ed

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Neil Campling [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 13 May 2003 08:27
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [FISH] Course invitation: UDC
>
>
> Dear Ms Slavic,
>
> Please tell me what the UDC is, or what it is supposed to do.
>
> Cheers,
> N Campling
>
>
>



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