Dear all,
Thanks to all, who have replied for your comments and help - it seems
that most of the bird bones on the picture came from galliformes/
possibly quail. This really was a great help.
But there are some passerines too, as you mentioned, and I managed to
get some new photos of Humeri and Ulnae, which can be found quite
commonly among the animal bone samples, as far as I can assess. You can
find 2 new photos on zoobook:
http://zooarchaeology.ning.com/photo/photo/listForContributor?screenName=2i7bcdtuv7qg9
Even if it might not be possible to determine these bones to species
level, any suggestions or hints to higher taxonomic levels would be a
great help, since this material might not be easily accessible any more
after this years campain.
thank you very much
and all the best
Herbert
Am 14.03.2016 um 16:39 schrieb Lee G. Broderick:
> Hi,
>
> Just thought I'd throw my support behind Julia's suggestions - galliformes (almost certainly some form of quail, if I'm reading your scale right) and passerines. Don't be afraid to take identification no further than passeriform if you have no access to a reference collection.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Lee G. Broderick. MSc, MA, FZS
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> Hi Herbert,
> You are right, you do have more than one species going on in there. Looks like you have some galliform bones (e.g. chickens and friends) but also some larger passerine types. Never having encountered a bulbul bone I couldn't comment fully there! However, looking at this paper (Julian P Hume. "A new subfossil bulbul [Aves: Passerines: Pycnonotidae] from Rodrigues Island, Mascarenes, south-western Indian Ocean Journal of African Ornithology" - which I can send you if needed) you may well have some.
>
> As a starting point (seeing as it sounds like you are without certain resources at the moment) download Cohen, A. and Serjeantson D. (1996) A Manual for the Identification of Bird Bones from Archaeological Sites.(2nd Edition). London, Archetype Publications Ltd https://app.box.com/shared/15gcd0a6t3 to give you a baseline.
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> Feel free to contact me off list if you want more details and the bulbul paper which has some nice photos of the elements in it.
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> All the best,
> Julia
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: [ZOOARCH] bird bone identification
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> Dear all,
>
> Does anyone know these bird bones? I think, most of them (but not all of
> them) came from just one species and it might be a passerine (but I´m definitely not an bird expert). I´m wondering if these could be the remains of bulbuls (Pycnonotus (barbatus?), since they are quite common in this area (egypt, just south of cairo, nile valley) and the bones were found in layers close to the surface.
> Does anyone have photos of skeletal elements of bulbuls or have an idea which species could be represented? Unfortunately, there is no reference collection on site and there is no way to get the bones out of the excavation building.
> Thanks in advance - any hint is highly welcomed!
>
> http://zooarchaeology.ning.com/photo/bild3
>
> I´m sorry for the bad quality of the photo...
>
> greetings and all the best
> herbert
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