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LISTSERV Web Interface 16.52024-03-27T17:20:00ZSoussoko Samba2024-03-27T18:19:55+01:002024-03-27T18:19:55+01:00Duck-billed platypus in Vertebrateshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;8d50fc46.2403Dear all,<br><br>We just finished the integration of a duck-billed platypus to the app Vertebrates.<br><br>Post-cranial elements come from a specimen from the Zoological Museum of<br>Strasbourg. It was CT-Scanned as whole as the specimen is preserved in alcohol.<br>The scan revealed that the skull was damaged by metal parts (invisible on the<br>surface) so the skull and the mandibles were replaced by a scan kindly provided<br>by the Belgium Institute of Natural Sciences. [...]pc4@nyu.edu2024-03-27T12:35:21-04:002024-03-27T12:35:21-04:00New report on animal bones from Ribehttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;b703c96e.2403Hi Folks, Does anyone have a PDF of the faunal report from the 2022<br>Northern Emporium volume on the making of Ribe. I am having trouble getting<br>it from our library system. Many thanks in advance.Hannah Britton2024-03-27T15:54:33+00:002024-03-27T15:54:33+00:00Re: Birds of Egypthttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;24c644c8.2403Hi Maris,<br><br>For my PhD I am creating a metrical and photographic/3D guide for British<br>raptors, particularly falconry species.<br><br>I will happily share these with you, though it is not yet completed!<br><br>All the best,<br>Hannah<br><br>*Hannah Britton*<br><br>PhD Student, Department of Archaeology, University of Exeter<br>*Funded by the South, West & Wales Doctoral Training Partnership (AHRC)*<br><br>Centre for HumAnE Bioarchaeology<br><https://humanities.exeter.ac.uk/archaeology/research/centres/humane/> [...]Maris Schneider2024-03-27T14:58:37+00:002024-03-27T14:58:37+00:00Birds of Egypthttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;12b3144e.2403Hi there,<br><br>I am currently studying mummified birds from ancient Egypt. I am looking for a field guide/species manual for the birds (particularly raptors) of Egypt that includes skeletal measurements. I would also be looking for some sort of digital reference collection that I could use for comparison. Any help would be greatly appreciated! [...] Haskel Greenfield2024-03-26T23:14:21+00:002024-03-26T23:14:21+00:00Re: Publications on fish remains from Bosnia and Herzegovinahttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;d2379de.2403When I excavated Kadica Brdo many years under Blagoje Govedarica, we had lots of fish bones that appeared in the floatation. Unfortunately I never had a chance to identify them to taxa or to quantify them. It was supposed to be in the next field season. They were stored near the site and the storage area was destroyed during the war. I can send the zooarch report that I published several years later based on my field notes and field analysis of remains.<br>Best<br>Haskel [...] Ivana Zivaljevic2024-03-26T22:25:58+00:002024-03-26T22:25:58+00:00Publications on fish remains from Bosnia and Herzegovinahttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;ade2fa4e.2403Dear colleagues,<br>Is anyone perhaps aware of any archeozoological publications on fish remains from sites in Bosnia and Herzegovina, regardless of the time period? They can either be on fish remains, or general archaeozoological works mentioning fish.<br>Many thanks in advance!<br>Best,Ivana<br><br>Ivana Živaljević, PhD<br>Assistant Professor<br>Department of HistoryFaculty of Philosophy<br>University of Novi Sad<br><br>Tel: +381 63 89 41 820<br>Email: ivana.zivaljevic@ff.uns.ac.rs ivziv81@yahoo.comhttp://www.ff.uns.ac.rs/sr/fakultet/odseci/istorija/zaposleni/ivana-zivaljevic<br> <br> [...]Deb Bennett2024-03-26T11:53:25-07:002024-03-26T11:53:25-07:00Re: Equid tibia, muscle attachmentshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;af7790da.2403Dear Ramazan: What you have in the photo is a view of the caudal surface of an equine tibia. The lines/grooves are the normal markings associated with the tendons of origin of the popliteus muscle; so much so that they are called ‘popliteal lines’. Have a look at Sisson & Grossmann, Ashdowne & Done, Pasquini, or any other standard equine anatomy text. Cheers – Deb Bennett [...]Ramazan Parmaksiz2024-03-26T18:57:40+03:002024-03-26T18:57:40+03:00Equid tibia, muscle attachmentshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;71ff6bf.2403Dear all,<br><br>I would like to ask you about the attached photo which is a shaft part of<br>an equid from Early Hellenistic period in Central Anatolia.<br><br>Do you think this depression(?) on the bone is related to blood vessels or<br>muscle attachments which are related to draught etc.? I appreciate<br>any answers/comments.<br><br>Sincerely<br><br>Ramazan Parmaksız<br>MSc student at Istanbul Technical UniversityUmberto Albarella2024-03-25T22:14:22+00:002024-03-25T22:14:22+00:00Re: PhD on marine mammals - deadline 22 Aprilhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;5467b572.2403Dear Laszlo and John,<br>I do agree of course and we have been through this before.<br>Hopefully, we won't need to repeat it.<br>Best wishes,<br>Umberto<br><br>On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 at 20:58, Laszlo Bartosiewicz <<br>laszlo.bartosiewicz@ofl.su.se> wrote:<br><br>> Dear All,<br>><br>><br>> I cannot help but fully support those arguing for professional contents on<br>> this list. As individuals, we cannot stick our heads in the sand and have<br>> tremendous moral responsibility regarding both political and personal<br>> issues.<br>><br>><br>> However, both divisive subjects and associated rhetoric should be kept<br>> away from our community, [...]Umberto Albarella2024-03-25T22:10:59+00:002024-03-25T22:10:59+00:00Re: [Urgeschichte] Terrorist assault by Hamas on Israel - open letter from scholars of antiquityhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;342ce18f.2403Dear Karl,<br>we went through this last November (please see archives). There is no point<br>in rehashing this issue. I would be grateful if you could refrain from<br>writing on this issue again.<br>Best wishes,<br>Umberto<br><br>On Mon, 25 Mar 2024 at 19:56, Karl Cajtak <cajtak@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br>> What about now? Still feeling the same? Should I still sign it?<br>> Question from a concerned Jew.<br>><br>> On 3 Nov 2023, at 09:04, Susanne C. Münzel <<br>> susanne.muenzel@UNI-TUEBINGEN.DE> wrote:<br>><br>> Dear all,<br>> please read this open letter (in German and English) and sign it,<br>> thanks [...]Alex Rassadnikov2024-03-25T21:11:49+00:002024-03-25T21:11:49+00:00New article - funerary archaezoology of the Bronze Age of the South Uralshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;dd0fc325.2403Dear ZOOARCHers,<br><br>I would like to share with you a recent article, which is based on materials from one of the mounds of the Sintashta culture of the Bronze Age in the steppe zone of the Southern Urals. This is my first work with funerary archaeozoological material and I made a number of mistakes. However, there are several interesting and important aspects that may deserve the community's attention. [...]Laszlo Bartosiewicz2024-03-25T20:58:19+00:002024-03-25T20:58:19+00:00Re: PhD on marine mammals - deadline 22 Aprilhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;ce0f0658.2403Dear All,<br><br>I cannot help but fully support those arguing for professional contents on this list. As individuals, we cannot stick our heads in the sand and have tremendous moral responsibility regarding both political and personal issues.<br><br>However, both divisive subjects and associated rhetoric should be kept away from our community, a last resort to many of us in an increasingly insane world. [...] Günther Karl Kunst2024-03-25T21:53:09+01:002024-03-25T21:53:09+01:00Re: incisor identification bison/aurochshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;3d97d35a.2403Dear Kristiina,<br><br>in their popular monograph on the Bad Dürrnberg mesolithic burial<br>("Schamanin"), the authors (Meller/Michel) cite colleagues about<br>Bison/Bos incisors discrimination "not possible"; there are some<br>incisors associated with this burial, with detailed pictures; I am not<br>sure who was involved in the fauna;<br><br>Indirect evidence: I think I remember R.D.Guthrie's "The story of Blue<br>Babe Frozen Fauna ..." that there are some ideas about different<br>morphology of praemaxilla/os incisivum (snout shape) in different<br>species of Bison, based on feeding behaviour, this may have an effect on<br>incisor shape, too [...]John Slaney2024-03-25T16:25:35-04:002024-03-25T16:25:35-04:00Re: PhD on marine mammals - deadline 22 Aprilhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;5f9f375b.2403Hi Umberto,<br><br>Many people here have strong personal opinions on events in the middle<br>east, Ukraine, Afghanistan, and Iran (and more). This is not the forum to<br>debate or troll.<br><br>I think people who can't recognize this should be removed from the group or<br>at least censured.<br><br>Thank you.<br><br>John Slaney.<br><br>On Mon., Mar. 25, 2024, 1:21 p.m. Umberto Albarella, <<br>00004a5bc538799b-dmarc-request@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote: [...]Karl Cajtak2024-03-25T20:56:29+01:002024-03-25T20:56:29+01:00Re: [Urgeschichte] Terrorist assault by Hamas on Israel - open letter from scholars of antiquityhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;d290ffea.2403What about now? Still feeling the same? Should I still sign it?<br>Question from a concerned Jew.<br><br>> On 3 Nov 2023, at 09:04, Susanne C. Münzel <susanne.muenzel@UNI-TUEBINGEN.DE> wrote:<br>><br>> Dear all,<br>> please read this open letter (in German and English) and sign it,<br>> thanks Susanne<br>><br>> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------<br>> Betreff: [Urgeschichte] Terrorist assault by Hamas on Israel - open letter from scholars of antiquity<br>> Datum: Fri, 03 Nov 2023 08:34:51 +0100<br>> Von: Miriam Haidle via Urgeschichte <urgeschichte@listserv.uni-tuebingen.de> <mailto:urgeschichte@listserv.uni-tuebingen.de><br>> Antwort an: Miriam Haidle <miriam.haidle@uni-tuebingen.de> <mailto:miriam.haidle@uni-tuebingen.de><br>> An: urgeschichte@listserv.uni-tuebingen.de <mailto:urgeschichte@listserv.uni-tuebingen.de><br>><br>> [...]Mannermaa, Kristiina E2024-03-25T19:35:05+00:002024-03-25T19:35:05+00:00incisor identification bison/aurochshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;a1ef27c5.2403Dear all.<br>I am searching for information about how to distinguish permanent and/or deciduous incisors of European bison and aurochs. I would be grateful to hear about measurements, morphological differences, or whatever data or observations you might have on the topic. I haven´t seen any literature about this topic. Maybe it is not even possible? Thanks!<br>All the best<br>Kristiina [...] Umberto Albarella2024-03-25T17:20:10+00:002024-03-25T17:20:10+00:00Re: PhD on marine mammals - deadline 22 Aprilhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;631eb2da.2403Dear Catherine and Karl,<br>I am sure this was just a misunderstanding and everything is OK.<br>Catherine, there was nothing wrong about your message and many thanks for<br>advertising the position on ZOOARCH.<br>May I please remind everybody that derogatory personal messages are not<br>acceptable on this list. It is fine to be critical of ideas, thoughts, and<br>approaches but please never attack the person. We are a peaceful,<br>compassionate and sympathetic community and don't need any of that.<br>Best wishes,<br>Umberto [...]Catherine Dupont2024-03-25T18:06:29+01:002024-03-25T18:06:29+01:00Re: PhD on marine mammals - deadline 22 Aprilhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;3a398927.2403Dear colleague,<br><br>I have forwarded the announcement of a thesis proposal from a colleague.<br>The subject is explained by my colleague via the link provided in my<br>message.<br>I was very hurt by your message.<br><br>I am working hard to obtain reliable results.<br>I remain at your disposal for further details.<br>I am extremely touched and saddened.<br>I have faults, I am only human. [...]Karl Cajtak2024-03-25T17:39:25+01:002024-03-25T17:39:25+01:00Re: PhD on marine mammals - deadline 22 Aprilhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;1e6ac270.2403¿Por qué no entiendo nada? ¿Estoy loco?<br>Nada tiene sentido y me hace sentir realmente inseguro. Ni el PhD, ni el objectivo, ni las videos.<br>Arturo Morales Muniz tiene mucha paciencia.<br>Solo entiendo la mujer de Tel Aviv “ahora entiendo como Catherine ha escribido tanto, si ella habla como escribe, ella hace todo muy rapido” [...]Catherine Dupont2024-03-25T16:56:10+01:002024-03-25T16:56:10+01:00PhD on marine mammals - deadline 22 Aprilhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;90cc5894.2403Dear colleagues,<br><br>New ArCHe PhD position, no. 6. "Geographical and seasonal patterns in<br>marine mammal exploitation – ethnographic insights into prehistoric<br>practices" has been reopened - deadline 22 April<br><br>All details on<br><br>https://www.lu.lv/en/about-us/vacancies/phd-position-in-the-horizon-marie-sklodowska-curie-action-msca-doctoral-network-arche-archaeological-coastal-heritage-past-present-and-future-of-a-hidden-prehistoric-legacy/<br><br>Don't hesitate to forward this annoucement!<br><br>With best wishes<br><br>--<br>Catherine Dupont<br><br>Directrice de recherche<br>Médaille de Bronze du CNRS 2014<br><br>UMR 6566 CNRS<br>CReAAH<br>Centre de Recherche en Archéologie Archéosciences Histoire<br>Campus Beaulieu - Bât 24 - 25<br>263 avenue du Général Leclerc - CS 74 205<br>35042 RENNES Cedex<br>France [...]Pearson, Elizabeth2024-03-25T15:24:51+00:002024-03-25T15:24:51+00:00Re: [WCC EXTERNAL]Re: [ZOOARCH] Contact details for Sheila Hamilton-Dyerhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;69414f52.2403Hi Umberto,<br><br>Thanks, that’s good to know.<br><br>Best wishes,<br><br>Liz<br><br>From: Umberto Albarella <u.albarella@sheffield.ac.uk><br>Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2024 7:17 AM<br>To: Pearson, Elizabeth <lpearson@worcestershire.gov.uk><br>Cc: ZOOARCH@jiscmail.ac.uk<br>Subject: [WCC EXTERNAL]Re: [ZOOARCH] Contact details for Sheila Hamilton-Dyer<br><br>CAUTION: This email originates outside of Worcestershire County Council's network. Do NOT click on links or open attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe. If you believe this email to be spam please delete it. Further information on cyber security is available on OurSpace<https://worcestershirecc.sharepoint.com/whatwedo/ITandDigital/CyberSecurity> [...]Abu B. Siddiq2024-03-25T07:51:46+00:002024-03-25T07:51:46+00:00New publication!https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;9f378dc4.2403Dear fellow Zooarchs,<br><br>I am happy to share with you the release of our latest publication focusing on the faunal remains unearthed from a royal midden at Ayanis citadel, an Urartian-Iron Age city on the Lake Van, Eastern Turkiye. For the next 50 days, this publication is available as open access. [...] Umberto Albarella2024-03-23T07:17:01+00:002024-03-23T07:17:01+00:00Re: Contact details for Sheila Hamilton-Dyerhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;b7a24cde.2403Hi Liz,<br><br>Sheila is indeed on this list and a frequent contributor to it.<br><br>Should anybody want to know who the list members are, please send a message<br>to jiscmail@jiscmail.ac.uk. The message should only contain the text<br>"review zooarch".<br><br>While I'm writing, I would also like to remind members that all past<br>ZOOARCH messages can be found at:<br>https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=zooarch.<br>On the right-hand side of the page, you'll find a "search archives" query<br>option. [...]Humberto Filipe Dias Veríssimo2024-03-22T17:40:38+00:002024-03-22T17:40:38+00:00Conference JIA 2024https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;c102452a.2403Dear colleagues<br><br>We would like to inform our colleagues that a conference is being organized that may be of interest to students who are working on projects in their academic field related to Zooarchaeology. The conference will cover a wide range of approaches to this subject. We kindly request assistance in promoting this conference and the thematic area that forms the basis of our daily work.<br>This will allow students to contact the conference organizers for any clarification questions, as well as submit communication proposals or posters, depending on each individual's availability. [...] Liz Pearson2024-03-22T15:17:58+00:002024-03-22T15:17:58+00:00Contact details for Sheila Hamilton-Dyerhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;c4b417ea.2403Hello,<br><br>I was just wondering whether Sheila Hamilton-Dyer is still working, or is on this list still? Myself and Derek Hurst would like to contact her about one of our older projects. If anyone knows of her contact details, I'd be most grateful.<br><br>Regards,<br><br>LizHaskel Greenfield2024-03-21T14:26:47+00:002024-03-21T14:26:47+00:00Re: Problem with undegreased boneshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;13bd5398.2403Here is our standard recipe for cooking the grease out of bones. It is a long process, but very effective.<br>Best<br>Haskel<br><br>Haskel J. Greenfield, Distinguished Professor<br>University of Manitoba<br><br>From: Analysis of animal remains from archaeological sites <ZOOARCH@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> On Behalf Of Angelos Hadjikoumis<br>Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 5:12 PM<br>To: ZOOARCH@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<br>Subject: Re: [ZOOARCH] Problem with undegreased bones [...]Norbert Eeltink2024-03-21T12:49:55+01:002024-03-21T12:49:55+01:00Re: Problem with undegreased boneshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;74a62a82.2403The methods described by Davis & Payne (see attached), partly also using<br>enzymes, are interesting, but may require chemicals and may not always<br>practical for bigger animals/bones. Very small animals can even be<br>skeletonized by simply putting them as a whole in a jar with just water<br>and change the water from time to time until the required result is<br>reached. In the early stages this can be a bit unpleasant, but this way<br>the bones are undamaged and even the smallest bones should be present<br>(provide one uses a effective sieve). Than there is the possibility of<br>using insects. [...] Philippe Migaud2024-03-21T11:10:52+00:002024-03-21T11:10:52+00:00Re: Problem with undegreased boneshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;cc05707a.2403At veterinary school Oniris we used ethylene trichloride, but you need a special distiller because it's extremely toxic, so it's a closed circuit. There's also the question of waste, which requires authorisation in France. But this is what gives the best and quickest results.Matthew Campbell2024-03-21T11:00:14+13:002024-03-21T11:00:14+13:00Re: Problem with undegreased boneshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;fbd1bf3d.2403Biotex is often mentioned on this list, but is not available in New<br>Zealand, it might be good to know if there are equivalents elsewhere (I’m<br>pretty sure our equivalent – liquid Drive – was discontinued a decade or<br>more ago), although this web site says it sends worldwide:<br><br>https://www.dutchexpatshop.com/en/brands/biotex/ but whether it would get<br>through customs is another matter. [...]Mariana Mondini2024-03-21T06:56:12-03:002024-03-21T06:56:12-03:00Re: Problem with undegreased boneshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;f9325e09.2403Hi, Tergazyme is another option. See, for instance:<br>Davis, S., & Payne, S. (1992). 101 ways to deal with a dead hedgehog: notes<br>on the preparation of disarticulated skeletons for zoo-archaeological use.<br>Circaea, 8(2), 95-104.<br>Best,<br>Mariana<br><br>Mariana Mondini<br>Laboratorio de Zooarqueología y Tafonomía de Zonas Áridas (LaZTA)<br>IDACOR, CONICET-UNC<br>Av. H. Yrigoyen 174<br>(5000) Córdoba, Argentina<br>Tel./fax: (54-351) 4332105 (int. 117)<br>Email: mariana.mondini@gmail.com, mmondini@filo.uba.ar<br><mmondini@conicet.gov.ar>, mmondini@conicet.gov.ar<br>Web: blogs.ffyh.unc.edu.ar/zooarqueologia/ [...]Ashleigh Haruda2024-03-21T09:33:30+00:002024-03-21T09:33:30+00:00Re: Problem with undegreased boneshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;e92bca78.2403For those of us outside of the EU, you can look up the key ingredients in<br>the EWG database to find a detergent in your country, although n.b.- the<br>database was created in North America so there is a bias... However, if you<br>see Ecover products in your country, it appears the Ecover Zero laundry<br>detergent has the same ingredients as biotex:<br>https://www.ewg.org/guides/cleaners/541-EcoverZEROLaundryLiquidConcentrate/ [...]Norbert Eeltink2024-03-20T23:30:20+01:002024-03-20T23:30:20+01:00Re: Problem with undegreased boneshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;cbc0d9e0.2403Hi Ngā,<br><br>If you mean how long the detergent can be stored, I can tell you from<br>experience that (if stored in a good air tight container) it will keep<br>for over a year or even years, even though you may have to use a bit<br>more or apply more cycles after a real long time storing it. [...]Angelos Hadjikoumis2024-03-21T00:12:13+02:002024-03-21T00:12:13+02:00Re: Problem with undegreased boneshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;c2e05b1f.2403Hi Matteo,<br><br>I have two methods to suggest:<br>1. Put the bones in successive baths of acetone. When acetone gets dark<br>yellow it means the bones should be moved into new container with acetone<br>(until you are happy with them). Containers with acetone that you think can<br>still 'suck out' some more fat can be used as the first step for new greasy<br>bones.<br>2. If you don't want to use acetone, you can do the same with detergent and<br>water. Somehow keeping the water warm helps fat to dislodge from the bone<br>and 'migrate' to the surface (where it [...]Norbert Eeltink2024-03-20T22:41:02+01:002024-03-20T22:41:02+01:00Re: Problem with undegreased boneshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;81a7b028.2403Hi Matteo,<br><br>I have good experiences with a detergent for hand washing textiles that<br>contains the enzymes subtilisin, lipase, amylase and β-mannanases<br>(called Biotex over here). It may take several cycles.<br><br>Best,<br><br>Norbert<br><br>---<br><br>drs. N.T.D. Eeltink<br><br>senior KNA-archeoloog & senior KNA-specialist fysische antropologie<br><br>Vicevoorzitter van de Nederlandse Vereniging voor Fysische Antropologie<br>(NVFA)<br>Bestuurslid Inhoudelijke Archeologie landelijk bestuur van de AWN -<br>Nederlandse Archeologievereniging [...]Belmaker, Miriam2024-03-20T21:25:08+00:002024-03-20T21:25:08+00:00Re: Problem with undegreased boneshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;a8ded5df.2403We put then in dawn dish soap and replace the water once a week or so.. it can take up to 3 months for very greasy bones..<br><br>Miriam<br><br>Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> matteo cianfoni2024-03-20T22:23:19+01:002024-03-20T22:23:19+01:00Problem with undegreased boneshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;eacd2f08.2403Dear all,<br>Has anyone had any experience with undegreased bones? In my laboratory<br>reference collection I have many bones that were collected many years ago.<br>Some of these are restaurant waste, others are excavated bones that have<br>not been treated; some of these were bleached with hydrogen peroxide, but<br>the degreasing process was skipped. I have tried putting some bones in<br>cloudy ammonia, but they have lost only a little part of their fat and are<br>still orange in colour and sticky to the touch. Has anyone experienced this<br>problem and has any advice on what to do?<br>All the [...]Ismail Saafi2024-03-20T11:24:59+00:002024-03-20T11:24:59+00:00PDF requesthttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;ab4671c.2403Dear all,<br><br>Can anyone send me a pdf of this article?<br><br>- Colonese, A. C., & Wilkens, B. (2005). The malacofauna of the Upper Palaeolithic levels at Grotta della Seratura (Salerno, Southern Italy), preliminary data. In D. M. Bar-Yosef (Ed.), Archaeomalacology: Molluscs in former environments of human behaviour (pp. 63-70). Oxbow Books. [...]Rado Kabatiar2024-03-19T17:33:55-04:002024-03-19T17:33:55-04:00land snail article - PDF requesthttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;bc88b5b9.2403Hello,<br><br>Would anyone share a PDF of this article please?<br><br>KUNZ, F. & KOBEL-LAMPARSKI, A. 2002. Phenology and population structure of<br>the land pulmonate snail Zebrina detrita (Gastropoda: Stylommatophora:<br>Enidae). Malakologische Abhandlungen, 20 (2): 253–262.<br><br>The original German title should be: Phänologie und Populationsstruktur der<br>Landlungenschnecke Zebrina detrita (Gastropoda: Stylommatophora: Enidae).<br><br>Thank you.<br><br>Best regards,<br><br>Rado<br><br>Radovan Kabatiar, PhD<br>Postdoctoral Fellow in Zooarchaeology<br>University of TorontoHans Christian Küchelmann2024-03-19T21:53:22+01:002024-03-19T21:53:22+01:00Fwd: Narwhal paperhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;5edee2dd.2403Paper received within incredible 8 minutes (!!!), thanks to Youri van den Hurk and Hannah Russ. Anybody interested please get in touch with me off-list.<br><br>Best wishes.<br><br>Christian<br>--<br>Knochenarbeit<br><br>Hans Christian Küchelmann<br><br>Speicherhof 4, D-28217 Bremen, Germany<br>tel: +49 - 421 - 61 99 177<br>mail: info@knochenarbeit.de<br>web: www.knochenarbeit.de<br>ORCID-ID: 0000-0003-0207-3804<br><br>> Anfang der weitergeleiteten Nachricht:<br>><br>> Von: Hans Christian Küchelmann <info@knochenarbeit.de><br>> Betreff: Narwhal paper<br>> Datum: 19. März 2024 um 20:41:44 MEZ<br>> An: "ZOOARCH@JISCMAIL.AC.UK" <ZOOARCH@JISCMAIL.AC.UK><br>><br>> Dear colleagues,<br>><br>> does anybody happen to have access to this paper:<br>><br>> # Haelters, J. [...]Hans Christian Küchelmann2024-03-19T20:41:44+01:002024-03-19T20:41:44+01:00Narwhal paperhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;715080b4.2403Dear colleagues,<br><br>does anybody happen to have access to this paper:<br><br># Haelters, J. / Kerckhof, F. / Doom, M. / Evans, P. G. H. / van den Neucker, T. / Jauniaux, T. (2018): New extralimital record of a narwhal (Monodon monoceros) in Europe. – Aquatic Mammals 44, 39–50<br><br>My university has only access until 2016. [...]Roz Gillis2024-03-19T17:10:33+01:002024-03-19T17:10:33+01:00ICAZ Stable Isotope Working group meeting 2025 (?) proposalshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;2101252a.2403Dear All,<br><br>I would like to invite interested teams/labs/groups to send me proposals<br>for the next ICAZ Stable Isotope Working group meeting, to be held<br>(hopefully) in 2025. The proposal doesn't need to be long (a single page<br>will do), just an outline of the meeting (theme, where, when) and potential<br>costs. Once I have received three proposals, I will send them to ICAZ<br>working group members and ask them to vote on their favourite. [...]Trevor Orchard2024-03-19T15:50:46+00:002024-03-19T15:50:46+00:002024 ICAZ Fish Remains Working Group conferencehttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;d8d144a.2403Dear colleagues,<br><br>On behalf of the organizing committee, we would like to remind you that the 22nd ICAZ Fish Remains Working Group meeting will be held in Toronto, Canada, from 12 to 17 August, 2024. Conference sessions will run from August 12 to 15, with the field trip occurring on August 16 and 17. [...] Goran Tomac2024-03-19T12:39:09+00:002024-03-19T12:39:09+00:0011th PZAFhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;cce0dce7.2403Dear Zooarch community,<br><br>on behalf of my colleagues with whom I coordinated the PZAF working group and organized its most recent meeting in Zagreb last year, I would like to announce that the 11th Postgraduate ZooArchaeology Forum will take place in Lisbon in the summer of 2026. The exact dates will be announced in the following months by the newly selected organizers Patrícia Aleixo, Ana Beatriz Santos, Cátia Delicado and Miguel Rodrigues, who will undoubtedly make everyone feel truly welcome in the beautiful White City. [...]Mladen Mladenović2024-03-19T11:59:29+00:002024-03-19T11:59:29+00:00PDF requesthttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;2312fa6e.2403Dear ZooArchers,<br>I hope all of you are doing well.<br><br>Currently, I am working on my PhD thesis which is related to animal exploitation in Southeastern Europe during the Late Antique period.<br>I was wondering if anyone has any of these articles listed below in PDF format since I couldn't find them online and if so, could you please send them to me. [...]Lidija Mcknight2024-03-19T10:56:55+00:002024-03-19T10:56:55+00:00Survey - responses much appreciated!https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;9b1df794.2403Dear all,<br><br>Please find attached surveys designed by my MSc dissertation student, Lindsey Berger, who is investigating attitudes towards the display of human and animal remains in museums. Both myself and Lindsey would very much appreciate it if you could spare us a couple of minutes to complete the survey.<br><br>Please choose the link relevant to your position - either public, museum professional or Egyptology peer. [...] Mayfield-Loomis, Jay2024-03-19T00:38:03+00:002024-03-19T00:38:03+00:00Request for ID help - Avianhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;a37f727e.2403Hello all!<br><br>I was wondering if anyone had any ideas on what this may belong to? Its associated with Queen Anne's Revenge so it's likely something along the coast of eastern North America or Europe (around France).<br><br>Thanks,<br>Jay Pearson, Elizabeth2024-03-18T15:09:25+00:002024-03-18T15:09:25+00:00Re: [WCC EXTERNAL]RE: [ZOOARCH] Re: [ZOOARCH] Selection strategies for archiving animal bone assemblageshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;35ee3023.2403Hi Polydora,<br><br>Thanks very much. I must have overlooked this, but it is useful.<br><br>It definitely is true that many museums have little capacity to help a researcher with specialist material, so if the accompanying documentation (mentioned in the guidelines) are sent with the animal bone, it will help a great deal – we have a form to fill in for archiving projects which we could improve with some prompts. I suspect that the more we’re challenged with this issue (I know it’s regrettable), but the more we’re likely to end up with a degree of consensus. [...]Baker, Polydora2024-03-18T09:43:32+00:002024-03-18T09:43:32+00:00Re: [WCC EXTERNAL]Re: [ZOOARCH] Selection strategies for archiving animal bone assemblageshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;1270e2b7.2403Hi Liz and all, adding to this thread abit late, and echoing many of the comments and concerns, we provide some guiding principles regarding retention in the Animal Bones and Archaeology Guidelines (https://historicengland.org.uk/images-books/publications/animal-bones-and-archaeology/):<br>• minimising loss of information<br>• be developed for specific circumstances (eg site type, preservation, etc)<br>• involve a range of experts (eg biochem) to assess impact of a policy – this would consider information potential in the light of developing methodologies, developing theory, improved understanding of archaeological record, eg through regional reviews and frameworks, rerecording using comparable methods, testing previous hypotheses, previous inadequate reporting)<br>• consider [...]Baker, Polydora2024-03-18T09:01:14+00:002024-03-18T09:01:14+00:00Re: Small mammals in an urnhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;90b14e2a.2403Hi Borut and all, there was a Roman period deposit of cremated remains of macrofauna, mixed with microfauna (some also burnt) in vicinity of an inhumation and cremation cemetery at Scole, UK. The taxonomic distribution of the microfauna resembles owl pellet contents with a high proportion of rodents (mainly voles), and fewer amphibians, shrews, small birds, and a few other taxa. Many of the small mammal remains had abraded and rounded articular ends suggesting semi-digestion. The deposit was initially interpreted as a series of ‘funerary pyres’ by the excavators but the assemblage may consist of site refuse mixed with owl [...]dr. Nadezhda Karastoyanova2024-03-18T09:25:55+02:002024-03-18T09:25:55+02:00Reminder: Still Time to Apply for Poster or Presentation at the 2nd ICAZ Medieval Period Working Group Meeting 2024https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;cebbe60a.2403Dear Colleagues,<br><br>I wanted to remind you that there is still time to apply for a poster or<br>presentation at our upcoming 2nd ICAZ Medieval Period Working Group<br>Meeting 2024. Whether you have groundbreaking research to share or<br>innovative ideas to present, we welcome your contributions!<br><br>For your convenience, our website contains comprehensive information<br>about Bulgaria, the beautiful city of Sofia, the conference program,<br>venue details, keynote speakers, accommodation options, and much more. [...] Salima Ikram2024-03-18T09:00:06+02:002024-03-18T09:00:06+02:00Hauckhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;f886bf39.2403Does anyone have a pdf of E. Hank, ‘Die Hunderassen im Alten Agypten?Zeitschrift fur Hundeforschung 16, Leipzig. 1941<br><br>Salima Ikram, FBA<br>Distinguished University Professor<br>Egyptology Unit Head<br>American University in Cairo<br>2073 Prince Alwaleed (HUSS)<br>Dept. of Sociology, Egyptology and Anthropology<br>AUC Avenue, PO Box 74<br>Tagammu 5, New Cairo 11835, Egypt<br>salima@aucegypt.edu; salimaikram@gmail.com<br>Work Ph: 02 2615-1840Cakirlar, C.2024-03-17T21:22:45+01:002024-03-17T21:22:45+01:002 year Master archaeology (with lots of bioarchaeology)https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;9387a19d.2403dear all<br>deadline to apply for the Groningen program is May 1st.<br>Online presentations on how to apply, what the program is about etc will<br>take place tomorrow at 11:00 & 18:00 CET.<br>Interested students can still register here!<br><https://www.rug.nl/let/studeren-bij-ons/master/voorlichting/mastersevent-letteren/online-masterweek-maart-2024?lang=en><br>All the best,<br>Canan<br><br>Dr. Canan Çakırlar <https://www.rug.nl/staff/c.cakirlar/><br>Senior Lecturer | Programme Coordinator Research MA Archaeology<br>Faculty of Arts | Groningen Institute of Archaeology<br>University of Groningen [...]Soledad De Esteban Trivigno2024-03-17T19:50:41+00:002024-03-17T19:50:41+00:00Live online course Graphs with R’s ggplot, 18-19 Aprilhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;fd792830.2403Dear colleagues,<br><br>Registration is open for the course Graphs with R’s ggplot. Live sessions on the 18th and 19th of April, from 13:00 to 18:00 Madrid time.<br><br>Instructor: Dr. Ashton Drew<https://www.transmittingscience.com/instructors/ashton-drew/> (KDV Decision Analysis LLC, USA) - R Studio Certified Tidyverse and Shiny instructor.<br><br>Course overview:<br><br>In this two-day course, students will learn to build and customize ggplot graphics. The ggplot2 package is built upon the Grammar of Graphics of Leland Wilkenson. Wilkenson described how all quantitative data visualizations share common component elements. Learning this grammar enables efficient construction (or modification of) of professional graphics. [...] S Hamilton-Dyer2024-03-17T00:09:37+00:002024-03-17T00:09:37+00:00Re: Nile Rathttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;309da1.2403Hi, skull is smaller and more round than rattus, good description in<br>Harrison & Bates that I can xerox later, but no limbs. Best I can find<br>online for skull<br>https://collections-zoology.fieldmuseum.org/catalogue/2543041<br><br>Sheila<br><br>SH-D ArchaeoZoology<br>https://www.shd-archzoo.co.uk<br><br>On 16/03/2024 23:37, Salima Ikram wrote:<br>> Does anyone have proper pictures of the Nile rat’s skull, dentition,<br>> and body parts?<br>><br>> Salima Ikram, FBA<br>> Distinguished University Professor<br>> Egyptology Unit Head<br>> American University in Cairo<br>> 2073 Prince Alwaleed (HUSS)<br>> Dept. of Sociology, Egyptology and Anthropology<br>> AUC Avenue, PO Box 74<br>> Tagammu 5, New Cairo 11835, Egypt<br>> [...]Salima Ikram2024-03-17T01:37:44+02:002024-03-17T01:37:44+02:00Nile Rathttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;4114ae3.2403Does anyone have proper pictures of the Nile rat’s skull, dentition, and body parts?<br><br>Salima Ikram, FBA<br>Distinguished University Professor<br>Egyptology Unit Head<br>American University in Cairo<br>2073 Prince Alwaleed (HUSS)<br>Dept. of Sociology, Egyptology and Anthropology<br>AUC Avenue, PO Box 74<br>Tagammu 5, New Cairo 11835, Egypt<br>salima@aucegypt.edu; salimaikram@gmail.com<br>Work Ph: 02 2615-1840Laszlo Bartosiewicz2024-03-16T20:36:07+00:002024-03-16T20:36:07+00:00Re: mystery bonehttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;d818397c.2403Dear All,<br><br>Thank you for all the useful comments so far. Phalacocorax occurs commonly in my material, but not being a bird specialist I never thought of checking the furcula as wish bones are symmetric in my amateur head.<br><br>I will definitely have a look on Monday.<br><br>At least I did not think the bone was a rib as it did not match any species in the reference collection. [...] Sandor Attila2024-03-16T19:22:23+02:002024-03-16T19:22:23+02:00Re: mystery bonehttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;6fbcd747.2403I agree with Sheila. Half of a seebird furcula, I would also check fulmar.<br>Greetings, Attila<br>Show quoted text<br><br>On Sat, 16 Mar 2024, 19:16 S Hamilton-Dyer, <shd@shdbones.plus.com> wrote:<br><br>> Hi, looks like one half of eg cormorant furcula.<br>> Sheila<br>><br>> SH-D ArchaeoZoologyhttps://www.shd-archzoo.co.uk<br>><br>> On 16/03/2024 16:49, Laszlo Bartosiewicz wrote:<br>><br>> Dear all,<br>><br>><br>> The attached pictures show a strange bone from a multi-period shell-midden<br>> I western Scotland. It is very flat, sickle-like, thus the two-dimensional<br>> pictures should offer a rather authentic view.<br>><br>><br>> The articular end is poorly focused [...]S Hamilton-Dyer2024-03-16T17:16:11+00:002024-03-16T17:16:11+00:00Re: mystery bonehttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;7f73227d.2403Hi, looks like one half of eg cormorant furcula.<br>Sheila<br><br>SH-D ArchaeoZoology<br>https://www.shd-archzoo.co.uk<br><br>On 16/03/2024 16:49, Laszlo Bartosiewicz wrote:<br>><br>> Dear all,<br>><br>><br>> The attached pictures show a strange bone from a multi-period<br>> shell-midden I western Scotland. It is very flat, sickle-like, thus<br>> the two-dimensional pictures should offer a rather authentic view.<br>><br>><br>> The articular end is poorly focused in the image, but looks fused.<br>> Does anybody know what kind of bone this could be? I am not even sure<br>> about the element and vertebrate class.<br>><br>><br>> Any ideas [...]Laszlo Bartosiewicz2024-03-16T16:49:10+00:002024-03-16T16:49:10+00:00mystery bonehttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;b7c49bdc.2403Dear all,<br><br>The attached pictures show a strange bone from a multi-period shell-midden I western Scotland. It is very flat, sickle-like, thus the two-dimensional pictures should offer a rather authentic view.<br><br>The articular end is poorly focused in the image, but looks fused. Does anybody know what kind of bone this could be? I am not even sure about the element and vertebrate class. [...] Pavel Gol'din2024-03-16T10:59:54+02:002024-03-16T10:59:54+02:00Re: Small mammals in an urnhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;2d49cc30.2403Hi all,<br><br>We have an assemblage from a Roman cremation urn in Ukraine<br>which includes shrews, bats, birds, toads and fish, clearly not from<br>pellets. An owl's storage can be a possible explanation.<br><br>All the best,<br>Pavel<br><br>On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 10:42 AM Sandor Attila <adsandor@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br>> Interesting fact. There is an endemic European mammal species, which was<br>> described (and thought to be extinct at that moment!) based on finds from<br>> Roman amphorae and among Roman and eneolithic finds at several<br>> archeological sites in Transylvania, Romania. It is the Mehely's blind<br>> mole-rat, with a [...]Sandor Attila2024-03-16T10:41:59+02:002024-03-16T10:41:59+02:00Re: Small mammals in an urnhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;a97459ab.2403Interesting fact. There is an endemic European mammal species, which was<br>described (and thought to be extinct at that moment!) based on finds from<br>Roman amphorae and among Roman and eneolithic finds at several<br>archeological sites in Transylvania, Romania. It is the Mehely's blind<br>mole-rat, with a talkative scientific name - *Spalax antiquus*.<br><br>Greetings, Attila [...]Thierry Argant2024-03-15T21:08:15+01:002024-03-15T21:08:15+01:00Re: Small mammals in an urnhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;c2af23be.2403Full message available at: <a href="https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;c2af23be.2403">Re: Small mammals in an urn</a>Fabienne Pigière2024-03-15T17:16:16+00:002024-03-15T17:16:16+00:00Re: Well, well, wellhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;521277f1.2403Dear Jess,<br>Please see below a link to our paper (in French) on a Roman well<br>investigating taphonomical deposits when it was in use and after it was<br>abandoned. The approach of local environment and human activities is based<br>on mammal, herpetofauna and insect remains.<br><br>https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.researchgate.net%2Fpublication%2F338015047_Pigiere_F_Lentacker_A_Desender_K_Gleed-Owen_C_Van_Neer_W_2018_L%27etude_archeozoologique_In_Bausier_K_Bloch_N_Pigiere_F_eds_Antoing_Bruyelle_Villa_romaine_et_occupations_anterieures_Namur_Etudes_et_Docu&data=05%7C02%7C%7C93074754b2ca4efff58808dc45128823%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638461193101014587%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=ZgXhVNqmPaAbgcEuyXsn262tJITCF51Lz9pAj5twV4o%3D&reserved=0<br><br>I hope you will find it useful.<br>All the best,<br>Fabienne<br><br>On Thu, 14 Mar 2024, 18:06 Jessika Odenthal, <jessika.odenthal@gmail.com><br>wrote: [...]Richard Madgwick2024-03-15T11:33:15+00:002024-03-15T11:33:15+00:003.5 year Post-doc at Cardiff - 1 week to deadlinehttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;9c11d6a4.2403Dear all,<br><br>I'm just emailing to give this job advert a final push - one week till the deadline!<br><br>We have a 3.5 year post-doc vacancy at Cardiff University (deadline 22nd March). The post is part of the UKRI (ERC-selected) project 'Urban Life in a Time of Crisis: Enduring Urban Lifeways in Later Medieval England' (ENDURE, PI: Ben Jervis, Leicester). The role involves working with me on zooarchaeology and multi-isotope analysis. Medieval expertise is an advantage. [...] Julie Curl2024-03-15T09:58:50+00:002024-03-15T09:58:50+00:00Re: Small mammals in an urnhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;dce41e83.2403Hello,<br><br>I have seen collections of small rodents, rats and herpetofauna in complete<br>pots and burial urns when processing.<br>The condition is always much better than any other bone in the deposit.<br>These I have always interpreted as hibernation or nesting animals.<br><br>I remember there was an illustration by Victor Ambrus of a rat nesting in a<br>human skull too and the rats bones had been found in the skull. [...]Jørn Zeiler2024-03-15T10:41:10+01:002024-03-15T10:41:10+01:00Re: Small mammals in an urnhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;7a871c77.2403Dear Borut,<br><br>I agree with Bea's explanation that the concentration of bones might come from pellets. Another bird of prey with a strong preference for shrews is the barn owl.<br><br>Very best,<br>Jørn Zeiler<br><br>> Op 15-03-2024 06:40 CET schreef Borut Toskan <borut.toskan@zrc-sazu.si>:<br>><br>><br>><br>> Dear zooarchers,<br>><br>> I am working on a concentration of small mammal remains found mixed with cremated remains in an Early Iron Age urn at the Dvorisce SAZU cemetery in Ljubljana, Slovenia. Virtually all skeletal elements are represented, and the MNI based on the mandibles is > 100. The remains are not [...]Bea De Cupere2024-03-15T06:51:35+00:002024-03-15T06:51:35+00:00Re: Small mammals in an urnhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;562ccdf8.2403Dear Borut,<br>I think that you might be dealing with the remains of pellets of a bird of prey.<br>For example, the goshawk is known to have a diet that can include a significant proportion of shrews, depending on the region, time of the year and availability of other preys.<br>The question remains, however, how the pellets arrived next to the urn...<br>Greetings,<br>Bea [...] Borut Toskan2024-03-15T06:40:18+01:002024-03-15T06:40:18+01:00Small mammals in an urnhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;814ee9c8.2403Dear zooarchers,<br><br>I am working on a concentration of small mammal remains found mixed with<br>cremated remains in an Early Iron Age urn at the Dvorisce SAZU cemetery<br>in Ljubljana, Slovenia. Virtually all skeletal elements are represented,<br>and the MNI based on the mandibles is > 100. The remains are not<br>cremated, and there is also no taphonomic evidence to suggest that they<br>are the remains of carnivore 'meals'. Shrews strongly predominate among<br>the taxa, including Sorex alpinus, S. araneus, S. minutus, Neomys<br>fodiens, N. anomalus, Crocidura leucodon and/or suaveolens, but<br>occasional Talpa europaea and Microtus voles were also found. [...]Haskel Greenfield2024-03-14T22:56:25+00:002024-03-14T22:56:25+00:00Invitation to Publish a Paper in /Humans/ (ISSN 2673-9461)https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;36db3df9.2403Dear fellow Zooarchaeologists/Archaeozoologists<br><br>I am serving as an Editor-in-Chief of the on-line journal /Humans/. It is an international and cross-disciplinary open-access academic journal publishing peer-reviewed papers on anthropological subjects. Papers that cross traditional sub-disciplinary boundaries and that are transdisciplinary are highly encouraged. Given the nature of our discipline, I invite you to contribute a paper or propose a special issue to /Humans/. [...] Haskel Greenfield2024-03-14T22:37:43+00:002024-03-14T22:37:43+00:00Re: Zooarchaeological publications for Neolithic North Macedonia and Albaniahttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;40093f79.2403Hi. many of my publications from the region are available on academia and researchgate. Let me know if you have any problems finding them.<br>Best<br>Haskel<br><br>Haskel J. Greenfield, Distinguished Professor<br>University of Manitoba<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Analysis of animal remains from archaeological sites <ZOOARCH@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> On Behalf Of Hans Christian Küchelmann<br>Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2024 3:52 PM<br>To: ZOOARCH@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<br>Subject: Re: [ZOOARCH] Zooarchaeological publications for Neolithic North Macedonia and Albania [...]Jessika Odenthal2024-03-14T18:05:55+00:002024-03-14T18:05:55+00:00Re: Well, well, wellhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;2c5515c9.2403Dear All,<br><br>Thank you so much to everyone who kindly responded with literature and<br>helpful tips, all of which have been extremely useful!<br><br>Kind regards and thanks again,<br>Jess<br><br>On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 6:05 PM Jessika Odenthal <jessika.odenthal@gmail.com><br>wrote:<br><br>> Dear Zooarchers,<br>><br>> Are you aware of any studies or publications regarding faunal assemblages<br>> found in wells or studies regarding the taphonomic deposition of wells?<br>><br>> I am having trouble finding literature as the word “well” can be used in<br>> many different ways.<br>><br>> Any help would be much appreciated! Thank you!<br>><br>> [...]Hans Christian Küchelmann2024-03-14T13:23:29+01:002024-03-14T13:23:29+01:00Re: Small mammal post-cranial boneshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;f5ba1182.2403Dear Annika,<br><br>these may be useful:<br><br># Brown, J. Clevedon & Twigg, G. I. (1969): Studies on the pelvis in British Muridae and Cricetidae (Rodentia) . – Journal of Zoology 158, 81-132<br><br># Marzin, Isabelle (1988): Diagnose différentielle des os longs du membre thoracique chez quelques espèces de petits mammifères Européens, PhD-thesis Nantes Universitè, Nantes [...]Hannah Russ2024-03-14T11:40:40+00:002024-03-14T11:40:40+00:00Re: Small mammal post-cranial boneshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;72e824ff.2403Hi Annika,<br>I too was going to recommend Emily Johnson's small mammal paper :-)<br><br>In addition to the resources Karl sent, I also find John Rochester's flickr<br>album very useful. I believe all/most of the specimens he photographed are<br>those included in the University of Sheffield Zooarchaeology Laboratory<br>Reference Collection:<br>https://www.flickr.com/photos/jrochester/albums/72157651085157059/<br><br>Enjoy!<br><br>Best wishes, Hannah<br><br>¯ * ¬ - . *><{{{°>* . - ¬ * ¯ * ¬ - . *><{{{°> *. - ¬ * ¯ * ¬ - .<br>*><{{{°>* . - ¬ * ¯ * ¬ - . *><{{{°> *. - ¬ * ¯ [...]Karl Cajtak2024-03-14T12:32:56+01:002024-03-14T12:32:56+01:00Re: Small mammal post-cranial boneshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;4b3229b1.2403Attachments available until 13 Apr 2024<br>Hi Annika,<br><br>This reference I know is near where I am and I believe I could get a scanned copy if you didn’t find it:<br>VIGNE, J.D., 1995. Détermination ostéologique des principaux éléments du squelette appendiculaire d'Arvicola, d'Eliomys, de Glis et de Rattus. Fiches d'ostéologie animale pour l'archéologie, série B, 6 : 1-13. [...]Eleuterio Abreu De Sousa (HDR)2024-03-14T11:18:23+00:002024-03-14T11:18:23+00:00Re: Polite request for pdf copy of 'The Zooarchaeology of Fats, Oils, Milk and Dairying'https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;1b02fa5d.2403Dear all,<br><br>Here it is attached.<br><br>Best,<br>Luther<br><br>Eleutério Abreu De Sousa<br>PhD Candidate, Recipient of iMQRES Scholarship<br>Dept of History and Archaeology | Macquarie University NSW 2109 Australia<br>T: +61 426 001 307<br>Academia: https://mq.academia.edu/EleuterioLutherSousa<br>[signature_604497606] [1454891434964_PastedImage]<br>I acknowledge that Macquarie University stands on the land of the Darug Nation. I pay my respects to the Darug people, the Wattamattagal clan and their Elders, past, present, and future.<br>[signature_1347528482] Salima Ikram2024-03-14T13:12:55+02:002024-03-14T13:12:55+02:00Re: Polite request for pdf copy of 'The Zooarchaeology of Fats, Oils, Milk and Dairying'https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;46624944.2403I am afraid that I don’t have access to the volume either. Maybe some of our colleagues on the Zooarch can help (both you and me!)<br>I am writing to them in this email.<br><br>Salima Ikram, FBA<br>Distinguished University Professor<br>Egyptology Unit Head<br>American University in Cairo<br>2073 Prince Alwaleed (HUSS)<br>Dept. of Sociology, Egyptology and Anthropology<br>AUC Avenue, PO Box 74<br>Tagammu 5, New Cairo 11835, Egypt<br>salima@aucegypt.edu; salimaikram@gmail.com<br>Work Ph: 02 2615-1840 [...]Julie Curl2024-03-14T10:57:46+00:002024-03-14T10:57:46+00:00Re: Well, well, wellhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;814daeb4.2403Hello,<br><br>We had several timber-lined wells at a Roman site at scole in Norfolk back<br>in the mid-1990s. Polydora baker did the bone report for that site, which<br>included a rare cut nearly complete Roman Fallow Deer in one well. The full<br>report is:<br><br>*EAA 152, 2014: A Roman Settlement in the Waveney Valley: excavations at<br>Scole 1993–4, by Trevor Ashwin and Andrew Tester* [...]Günther Karl Kunst2024-03-14T11:45:30+01:002024-03-14T11:45:30+01:00Re: Well, well, wellhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;7e10a4c3.2403Dear Jessika,<br><br>I think assemblages from wells will be included in many/any larger site<br>studies, at least from the Roman period onwards, medieval and<br>post-medieval, especially from urban cores and buildings; but even in<br>prehistory; in many instances it will not be visible from the title<br>alone; from my personal perspective, a typical situation would be<br>represented by Groh/Sedlmayer, Forschungen im Vicus Ost von<br>Mautern-Favianis, where a well assemblage was compared to other pits,<br>house foundations, ...; and there is also the issue of latrines/cess<br>pits, which it is often not possible to discriminate from wells;<br>sometimes there might also [...]Annika Mörseburg2024-03-14T11:41:58+01:002024-03-14T11:41:58+01:00Small mammal post-cranial boneshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;495094c3.2403Dear everyone<br><br>I'm looking for recommendations of literature for the identification<br>of small mammals (Murinae and Arvicolinae) in particular. I can find a<br>lot concerning the Cranium but I have a lot of postcranial bones in<br>the assemblage. Maybe some of you had this problem before and were<br>more successfull in finding literature!<br><br>Thank you very much in advance,<br>have a nice week<br>AnnikaDr Angela Trentacoste2024-03-14T11:22:11+01:002024-03-14T11:22:11+01:00Bursaries for Environmental Archaeology at the Falerii Novi Projecthttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;e459d978.2403[Apologies for cross-posting]<br><br>At least 3 bursaries for participation in the inaugural session:<br><br>*Intensive Summer School: Environmental Archaeology Trench Side*<br><br>*A two-week field programme at the Roman town of Falerii Novi, Italy*<br><br>9–22 June 2024<br><br>Directed by Angela Trentacoste (British School at Rome) & Erica Rowan<br>(Royal Holloway)<br><br>This two-week programme is designed to provide a foundation in the theory<br>and methods of environmental archaeology, alongside focused in-field<br>training in the collection and processing of environmental evidence<br>(macrobotanical and zooarchaeological remains) relevant to Roman sites.<br>Participants will leave the programme with a strong foundation in on-site<br>environmental archaeology, and essential [...]Pearson, Elizabeth2024-03-14T10:20:03+00:002024-03-14T10:20:03+00:00Re: [WCC EXTERNAL]Re: [ZOOARCH] Selection strategies for archiving animal bone assemblageshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;528806d.2403Dear Umburto,<br><br>Thanks, that all makes sense, and it’s interesting what you say about selecting on size and condition etc. I had wondered about this issue. I’m sure we can work with those criteria.<br><br>Best wishes,<br><br>Liz<br><br>[cid:image001.png@01DA75F9.2CAB6EF0]<br><br>From: Umberto Albarella <u.albarella@sheffield.ac.uk><br>Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 5:32 PM<br>To: Pearson, Elizabeth <lpearson@worcestershire.gov.uk><br>Cc: ZOOARCH@jiscmail.ac.uk<br>Subject: [WCC EXTERNAL]Re: [ZOOARCH] Selection strategies for archiving animal bone assemblages [...]David Orton2024-03-14T06:51:21+00:002024-03-14T06:51:21+00:00Re: Ref request: Harding 1992, bones from Sigtunahttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;65070cbd.2403Dear all,<br><br>Thanks to Lena, László, and Stella who all offered to track down copies<br>(and all pointed out that this is an MA, not a PhD).<br>Lena has now sent along a copy of the original bone report on which the<br>thesis was based, which works for me. Anyone who would like a copy, please<br>let me know! [...]Ian Baxter2024-03-14T00:26:46+00:002024-03-14T00:26:46+00:00Re: Well depositionhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;7fbee7f0.2403There was a large very interesting assemblage, including significant numbers of cattle crania, in a well at Love's Farm, St Neots, Cambridgeshire. The monograph can be found on my ResearchGate page. <br>Ian Logan Baxter<br>On Wednesday, 13 March 2024 at 21:25:50 GMT, KIM DAMMERS <00000169db0cd413-dmarc-request@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote:<br><br>Jessika:<br><br> There is a brief discussion of deposition in wells on p. 134 of Cleary's "Putting the Dead in Their Place: burial Location in Roman Britain" in the book Burial, Society and Context in the Roman World ( readable online). [...]Hans Christian Küchelmann2024-03-13T22:39:33+01:002024-03-13T22:39:33+01:00Re: Well, well, wellhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;dca558fd.2403Dear Jessika,<br><br>searching my reference database for the words „Brunnen“ gives the following results for articles in German::<br><br># Dövener, Franziska (2018): Seltener Fund aus Luxemburg: Dromedar im Brunnen. – Archäologie in Deutschland 1/2018, 64-65<br><br># Forstenpointner, Gerhard / Galik, Alfred / Weissengruber, Gerald E. (2006): Die Tierreste aus dem Brunnen S-AB. in: Scherrer, Peter & Trinkl, Elisabeth (eds.): Die Tetragonos Agora in Ephesos. Grabungsergebnisse von archaischer bis in byzantinische Zeit – Ein Überblick. Befunde und Funde kassischer Zeit, 127-130, Wien [...]KIM DAMMERS2024-03-13T21:25:39+00:002024-03-13T21:25:39+00:00Well depositionhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;10109b48.2403Jessika:<br><br> There is a brief discussion of deposition in wells on p. 134 of Cleary's "Putting the Dead in Their Place: burial Location in Roman Britain" in the book Burial, Society and Context in the Roman World ( readable online).<br><br> Also, I might have written a little bit about layers in a well in a medieval/post-medieval house in Northeim, Germany that had masses of botanical remains. I don't currently have access to my article, but it is "Muehlsteinreste aus einem frühneuzeitlichen Brunnen im Beriech des Entenmarktes in Northeim," Northeimer Jahrbuch 56:78-95 (1991). Maybe one of the [...]KIM DAMMERS2024-03-13T20:58:37+00:002024-03-13T20:58:37+00:00Wellshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;18ac672.2403Jessika:<br><br> Try le puits (French) and Brunnen (German). Also try other languages, e.g., Polish (studni).<br><br>Gralak, Tomasz. "„Użył jak pies w studni”, czyli o pochówkach zwierzęcych z osady w Polwicy-Skrzypniku, pow. Oława, z późnego okresu wpływów rzymskich i początku okresu wędrówek ludów." Przegląd Archeologiczny 60 (2012): 107-132. reports dog bones in wells.<br><br>Grabung im Burgbrunnen von Schloß Nienover by Lothar Türck (http://www.argekh.de/mainnav/berichte-und-forschung/inland/suedliches-harzvorland-und-goettingen/brunnen-auf-schloss-nienover/grabung-im-burgbrunnen-von-schloss-nienover.html ) reports many animal bones. [...]Jessika Odenthal2024-03-13T18:05:25+00:002024-03-13T18:05:25+00:00Well, well, wellhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;ddf0a939.2403Dear Zooarchers,<br><br>Are you aware of any studies or publications regarding faunal assemblages<br>found in wells or studies regarding the taphonomic deposition of wells?<br><br>I am having trouble finding literature as the word “well” can be used in<br>many different ways.<br><br>Any help would be much appreciated! Thank you!<br><br>Kind regards,<br><br>JessikaDale Serjeantson2024-03-13T17:58:29+00:002024-03-13T17:58:29+00:00Re: Selection strategies for archiving animal bone assemblageshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;a3db8246.2403I agree with Umberto that well-dated bone assemblages should never be thrown away. Back in the day, I encountered more than one horror where material later recognised to be important had been thrown away.<br><br>The only time I agreed that bones should not be analysed and might be discarded was when they came from contexts that contain pottery and other finds with a mixture of Roman and medieval material. The discarded bones were then used for teaching. I have also recommended that medieval bone assemblages that could not be dated more closely than to a 200-year span did not merit [...] Jordi Nadal Lorenzo2024-03-13T15:29:00+00:002024-03-13T15:29:00+00:00reminder EZI-2024https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;2cf44473.2403Dear Zooarchers,<br>the deadline for EZI (Encuentro de Zooarqueología Ibérica) in Barcelona is fast approaching. There is no plan to extend the abstract submission so, please, make sure you send your proposal before the 31st March here: https://forms.gle/tEaeUAMCE2YTz7R66<br><br>Session themes:<br><br>* Animals in social and cultural interactions<br>* Innovations in taphonomical research<br>* Palaeoenvironmental reconstructions<br>* Animal diet, reproduction and mobility strategies<br>* Management practices / Husbandry practices / Ethnozooarchaeology<br>* New advances in morphometric, palaeogenomics and palaeoproteomics [...] Umberto Albarella2024-03-13T10:39:21+00:002024-03-13T10:39:21+00:00Re: Selection strategies for archiving animal bone assemblageshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;4cca587e.2403I know we have discussed this before and I completely agree that if<br>material is discarded the more samples and data can be taken the better<br>(assuming that the material is worth it). However, let's make sure that<br>nobody claims that this is not a serious loss for archaeology.<br>'Preservation by record' is at best a last and rather unsatisfactory<br>resort, at worst it's a fraud.<br>Cheers,<br>Umberto [...]Roz Gillis2024-03-13T08:41:28+01:002024-03-13T08:41:28+01:00Re: Selection strategies for archiving animal bone assemblageshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;8703804d.2403Hi,<br><br>Just to add to this thread, when you mean dispose do you mean the bones are<br>taken to the tip? Perhaps you can reburial them carefully and then they<br>could be recovered in the future.<br><br>Otherwise, I add my voice to Kim and others that the metal needs to be<br>recorded fully and samples taken from complete bones and complete teeth<br>from mandibles, wrap in tin foil. I am sure there are Master/Bachelor<br>students who would be happy to create dissertation project from. [...]Selena Vitezović2024-03-13T00:07:22+01:002024-03-13T00:07:22+01:00Re: Zooarchaeological publications for Neolithic North Macedonia and Albaniahttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;27b915aa.2403Dear Eleni,<br><br>The paper from Macedonia acta archaeologica is available online:<br>https://macedactaarchaeol.mk/index.php/acta/article/view/maced_acta_archaeol_vol_10_5/maced_acta_archaeol_vol_10_1989_article_5<br><br>Best regards, SelenaKIM DAMMERS2024-03-12T21:32:25+00:002024-03-12T21:32:25+00:00Selection strategies for archiving animal bone assemblageshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;3b39d394.2403While working with anything other than original material means working with, at best, second best, it is not the same as working with nothing. Consider making 3D images and taking core samples of bones that must be discarded. Also, make a record of what has been discarded and how.<br>Kim DammersProvo, UtahJulie Curl2024-03-12T18:20:51+00:002024-03-12T18:20:51+00:00Re: Young archaeologistshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;75e150c0.2403Hello Kevin,<br><br>I have done quite a lot of school work and environmental events with the<br>bones for a range of ages from pre-school to older children.<br>I found even the little ones absolutely loved bones and from around five<br>onwards like the diseases.<br><br>I have always had handling collections of unstratified and unwanted<br>material that I have been given.<br>I had skeleton diagrams and a selection of bones to guess where they come<br>from and even the little ones are good with that. [...]Rob Symmons2024-03-12T17:48:51+00:002024-03-12T17:48:51+00:00Re: Selection strategies for archiving animal bone assemblageshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;b07b1a1c.2403Hi Liz<br><br>A few years ago we developed some guidelines, with quite a bit of input from this group. I've attached them here. If you need any clarification, feel free to get in touch.<br><br>I've attached the entire document. Animal bone is only a small part. Hopefully the rest of the document will give some context. However, do bear in mind that the document relates specifically to Sussex (although the animal bone section is less regionally specific, I feel). [...]Julia Cussans2024-03-12T17:37:53+00:002024-03-12T17:37:53+00:00Re: Selection strategies for archiving animal bone assemblageshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;7e566686.2403Hi Liz,<br><br>I absolutely agree with everything Umberto has outlined below. Unfortunately this is being asked for more and more now as museums get full up. CIfA has developed this tool kit which may be of some use:<br><br>https://www.archaeologists.net/selection-toolkit<br><br>Best wishes,<br><br>Julia<br><br>Julia E M Cussans PhD FSAScot<br><br>Relief Lecturer - Archaeology | Òraidiche Faochadh - Arc-eòlas [...] Umberto Albarella2024-03-12T17:32:12+00:002024-03-12T17:32:12+00:00Re: Selection strategies for archiving animal bone assemblageshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;8ed470d3.2403Dear Liz,<br>discarding any material is regrettable but if it's inevitable the only<br>logical criterion is based on context/stratigraphic integrity. Bottom<br>priority would be material that is undated, from top layers or poorly<br>stratified. Any selection that is based on actual zooarchaeological<br>evidence (eg. fragment size, anatomical elements, preservation conditions<br>etc) would create a bias and make the whole assemblage of limited use.<br>Also, the museum shouldn't discard the material that they cannot keep but<br>rather donate it to a university or other education centre where it can be<br>used by students for practical activities. If transport is an issue [...]Liz Pearson2024-03-12T16:54:37+00:002024-03-12T16:54:37+00:00Selection strategies for archiving animal bone assemblageshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;7aa52310.2403Hi All,<br><br>Does anyone know of any selection strategies in current use when there is a need to make a selection for archiving relatively large animal bone assemblages in a museum? We may need to make such a selection for one of our sites, and as I mainly deal with archaeobotany, I'm not sure if this is carried out regularly, and how to go about it. [...]Leif Jonsson2024-03-12T16:00:59+00:002024-03-12T16:00:59+00:00Re: Fish vertebrahttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;3c8728ac.2403Hello, this is a vertebral centrum of a skate, family Rajidae,e.g. Raja clavata, R. radiata, Dipterus batis and several other. Look for dermal spines in your sample, they can sometimes be identified to species. If you have sieved down to 1-2 mm mesh size there can also be teeth found.<br>We have a lot of skates and spiny dog fish in 16th century Gothenburg. Some of our Rajidae are big and must come from Dipterus sp.<br>Leif JonssonStallibrass, Sue2024-03-12T14:16:42+00:002024-03-12T14:16:42+00:00Re: [EXT]Re: [ZOOARCH] Young archaeologistshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=ZOOARCH;8c5bea4b.2403Hi Kevin,<br><br>Skulls/jaws with teeth are a good way to demonstrate the difference between the teeth of a carnivore eg a domestic dog and a herbivore eg a sheep. And if you have an omnivore eg pig as well, even better as you can then ask them which their own teeth most resemble. And you can emphasise that size of an animal is irrelevant if you also have eg a rat/mouse/shrew compared to a vole/squirrel/rabbit. People tend to think that all furry animals are cuddly and docile… [...]