That’s supposed to be ‘about’…
Doug
On Jul 24, 2015, at 9:27 AM, Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> He talks a out it in his most famous essay, ‘Projective Verse,’ & perhaps elsewhere as well…
>
> Doug
> On Jul 23, 2015, at 5:53 PM, Bill Wootton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Yes, where, Doug? All I could find was a correspondence with Robert Creeley.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>> On 24 Jul 2015, at 9:50 am, Andrew Burke <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'd be interested to read Olson on brackets, yes. Where is it?
>>>
>>> Thanks, Doug.
>>>
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>>> On 24 July 2015 at 07:50, Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yes, but Im tempted to invite you to find & read Olson on brackets….
>>>>
>>>> Doug
>>>>> On Jul 23, 2015, at 5:53 AM, andrew burke <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Bravo! What a good result. Well done, Bill.
>>>>>
>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 23 July 2015 at 20:20, Bill Wootton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, Pat. You keep me on my toes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 23/07/2015, at 7:14 PM, Patrick McManus wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What team work!!! Well done Bill and it works better (imho!) p drifting
>>>>>>> prosaically
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>>> On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bill Wootton
>>>>>>> Sent: 23 July 2015 09:56
>>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Drifters
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Great idea, Jill. Thank you. I can see how moving 'into poetry' to the
>>>>>> end
>>>>>>> would justify use of the delay-inducing sets of parentheses. And the
>>>>>>> 'uncanny' bit kind of doubles up the line about 'perception inverters
>>>>>>> doesn't it. My test with brackets is to read it through without the
>>>>>> brackets
>>>>>>> and see if that works. So I have fiddled a bit again now and cut.
>>>>>>> Transformations and propulsions have bitten the dust to allow 'drift'
>>>> to
>>>>>>> have its head.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, see Pat, all this advice has helped. I think so anyway. Thanks too,
>>>>>>> Millicent, Doug, Max, Andrew.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here is my 'worked' final version.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> drift
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can words drift,
>>>>>>> (beginning prosaically,
>>>>>>> informatively, looking
>>>>>>> for all the world,
>>>>>>> to be workmanlike,
>>>>>>> jobbing sentence components)
>>>>>>> right beneath your eyes,
>>>>>>> and before you're aware,
>>>>>>> (through dint of odd
>>>>>>> placement
>>>>>>> or line
>>>>>>> turn)
>>>>>>> into mood-changers,
>>>>>>> joy-inspirers,
>>>>>>> perception-inverters,
>>>>>>> into poetry?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> bw
>>>>>>> 23 .7.15
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 23 Jul 2015, at 12:20 pm, Jill Jones <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Bill,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I like the brackets. Punctuation is there to be worked with (and
>>>> around,
>>>>>>> at times). I get how this is working with. Just a thought - and it's
>>>>>> simply
>>>>>>> a thought. To move 'into poetry' to the very end and do without 'into
>>>> the
>>>>>>> uncanny'.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 22/07/2015, at 7:29 AM, Bill Wootton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Drifters
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> First drift
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can words drift
>>>>>>>>> into poetry,
>>>>>>>>> (begin prosaically,
>>>>>>>>> informatively, looking
>>>>>>>>> for all the world at first,
>>>>>>>>> like workmanlike,
>>>>>>>>> jobbing sentence components)
>>>>>>>>> and then,
>>>>>>>>> (right under your eyes as it were,
>>>>>>>>> before you're aware)
>>>>>>>>> transform
>>>>>>>>> through dent of odd
>>>>>>>>> placement
>>>>>>>>> or line
>>>>>>>>> turn,
>>>>>>>>> into thought-provocative
>>>>>>>>> perception-inverters,
>>>>>>>>> mood-changers,
>>>>>>>>> joy inspirers,
>>>>>>>>> propellers
>>>>>>>>> into the
>>>>>>>>> uncanny?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Second drift
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can words drift into poetry?
>>>>>>>>> Beginning prosaically,
>>>>>>>>> informatively, looking
>>>>>>>>> for all the world,
>>>>>>>>> to be workmanlike,
>>>>>>>>> jobbing sentence components,
>>>>>>>>> then right beneath your eyes,
>>>>>>>>> as it were,
>>>>>>>>> before you're aware,
>>>>>>>>> transforming,
>>>>>>>>> through dent of odd
>>>>>>>>> placement
>>>>>>>>> or line
>>>>>>>>> turn,
>>>>>>>>> into mood-changers,
>>>>>>>>> joy-inspirers,
>>>>>>>>> perception-inverters,
>>>>>>>>> propellers
>>>>>>>>> into uncanny mind zones?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> bw
>>>>>>>>> 22 .7.15
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Preferences, other ideas, people of the poetryetc?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Douglas Barbour
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>>>>
>>>> Recent publications: (With Sheila E Murphy) Continuations & Continuation 2
>>>> (UofAPress).
>>>> Recording Dates (Rubicon Press).
>>>>
>>>> Done in by creation itself.
>>>>
>>>> I mean the gods. Not us. Well us too.
>>>> The gods moved into books. Who wrote the books?
>>>> We wrote the books. In whose dream, then are we dreaming?
>>>>
>>>> Robert Kroetsch.
>>>>
>>>
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> Douglas Barbour
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> Recent publications: (With Sheila E Murphy) Continuations & Continuation 2 (UofAPress).
> Recording Dates (Rubicon Press).
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> Done in by creation itself.
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> I mean the gods. Not us. Well us too.
> The gods moved into books. Who wrote the books?
> We wrote the books. In whose dream, then are we dreaming?
>
> Robert Kroetsch.
>
>
>
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Douglas Barbour
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Recent publications: (With Sheila E Murphy) Continuations & Continuation 2 (UofAPress).
Recording Dates (Rubicon Press).
Done in by creation itself.
I mean the gods. Not us. Well us too.
The gods moved into books. Who wrote the books?
We wrote the books. In whose dream, then are we dreaming?
Robert Kroetsch.
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