He talks a out it in his most famous essay, ‘Projective Verse,’ & perhaps elsewhere as well…
Doug
On Jul 23, 2015, at 5:53 PM, Bill Wootton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Yes, where, Doug? All I could find was a correspondence with Robert Creeley.
>
> Bill
>
>> On 24 Jul 2015, at 9:50 am, Andrew Burke <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> I'd be interested to read Olson on brackets, yes. Where is it?
>>
>> Thanks, Doug.
>>
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>> On 24 July 2015 at 07:50, Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, but Im tempted to invite you to find & read Olson on brackets….
>>>
>>> Doug
>>>> On Jul 23, 2015, at 5:53 AM, andrew burke <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Bravo! What a good result. Well done, Bill.
>>>>
>>>> Andrew
>>>>
>>>>> On 23 July 2015 at 20:20, Bill Wootton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Pat. You keep me on my toes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 23/07/2015, at 7:14 PM, Patrick McManus wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What team work!!! Well done Bill and it works better (imho!) p drifting
>>>>>> prosaically
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>> On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Bill Wootton
>>>>>> Sent: 23 July 2015 09:56
>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Drifters
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Great idea, Jill. Thank you. I can see how moving 'into poetry' to the
>>>>> end
>>>>>> would justify use of the delay-inducing sets of parentheses. And the
>>>>>> 'uncanny' bit kind of doubles up the line about 'perception inverters
>>>>>> doesn't it. My test with brackets is to read it through without the
>>>>> brackets
>>>>>> and see if that works. So I have fiddled a bit again now and cut.
>>>>>> Transformations and propulsions have bitten the dust to allow 'drift'
>>> to
>>>>>> have its head.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, see Pat, all this advice has helped. I think so anyway. Thanks too,
>>>>>> Millicent, Doug, Max, Andrew.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here is my 'worked' final version.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> drift
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can words drift,
>>>>>> (beginning prosaically,
>>>>>> informatively, looking
>>>>>> for all the world,
>>>>>> to be workmanlike,
>>>>>> jobbing sentence components)
>>>>>> right beneath your eyes,
>>>>>> and before you're aware,
>>>>>> (through dint of odd
>>>>>> placement
>>>>>> or line
>>>>>> turn)
>>>>>> into mood-changers,
>>>>>> joy-inspirers,
>>>>>> perception-inverters,
>>>>>> into poetry?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> bw
>>>>>> 23 .7.15
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 23 Jul 2015, at 12:20 pm, Jill Jones <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Bill,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I like the brackets. Punctuation is there to be worked with (and
>>> around,
>>>>>> at times). I get how this is working with. Just a thought - and it's
>>>>> simply
>>>>>> a thought. To move 'into poetry' to the very end and do without 'into
>>> the
>>>>>> uncanny'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 22/07/2015, at 7:29 AM, Bill Wootton wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Drifters
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> First drift
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can words drift
>>>>>>>> into poetry,
>>>>>>>> (begin prosaically,
>>>>>>>> informatively, looking
>>>>>>>> for all the world at first,
>>>>>>>> like workmanlike,
>>>>>>>> jobbing sentence components)
>>>>>>>> and then,
>>>>>>>> (right under your eyes as it were,
>>>>>>>> before you're aware)
>>>>>>>> transform
>>>>>>>> through dent of odd
>>>>>>>> placement
>>>>>>>> or line
>>>>>>>> turn,
>>>>>>>> into thought-provocative
>>>>>>>> perception-inverters,
>>>>>>>> mood-changers,
>>>>>>>> joy inspirers,
>>>>>>>> propellers
>>>>>>>> into the
>>>>>>>> uncanny?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Second drift
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can words drift into poetry?
>>>>>>>> Beginning prosaically,
>>>>>>>> informatively, looking
>>>>>>>> for all the world,
>>>>>>>> to be workmanlike,
>>>>>>>> jobbing sentence components,
>>>>>>>> then right beneath your eyes,
>>>>>>>> as it were,
>>>>>>>> before you're aware,
>>>>>>>> transforming,
>>>>>>>> through dent of odd
>>>>>>>> placement
>>>>>>>> or line
>>>>>>>> turn,
>>>>>>>> into mood-changers,
>>>>>>>> joy-inspirers,
>>>>>>>> perception-inverters,
>>>>>>>> propellers
>>>>>>>> into uncanny mind zones?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> bw
>>>>>>>> 22 .7.15
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Preferences, other ideas, people of the poetryetc?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>> Douglas Barbour
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>>>
>>> Recent publications: (With Sheila E Murphy) Continuations & Continuation 2
>>> (UofAPress).
>>> Recording Dates (Rubicon Press).
>>>
>>> Done in by creation itself.
>>>
>>> I mean the gods. Not us. Well us too.
>>> The gods moved into books. Who wrote the books?
>>> We wrote the books. In whose dream, then are we dreaming?
>>>
>>> Robert Kroetsch.
>>>
>>
Douglas Barbour
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Recent publications: (With Sheila E Murphy) Continuations & Continuation 2 (UofAPress).
Recording Dates (Rubicon Press).
Done in by creation itself.
I mean the gods. Not us. Well us too.
The gods moved into books. Who wrote the books?
We wrote the books. In whose dream, then are we dreaming?
Robert Kroetsch.
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