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Bravo, John! I'm impressed and grateful for your sleuthing.
Thanks for taking the time and trouble to find the Latin source of
the loose English translation. You may have noticed it has elicited a
lot of rec ent web commentary.
George
On Jul 17, 2010, at 3:16 PM, John Briggs wrote:
> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
> culture
>
> OK, I think I've cracked it:
>
> Following Vatican II, there was published in 1969 a new 'Ordo
> Baptimi Parvulorum', followed in 1972 by the 'Ordo Initiationis
> Christianae Adultorum'. One of them (probably the latter) introduced
> the following three formulae, of which only the second was the
> traditional one:
>
> Formula A
>
> Celebrans: Abrenuntiatis Satanae et omnibus operibus et
> seductionibus eius?
> Electi: Abrenuntio.
>
> Formula B
>
> Celebrans: Abrenuntiatis Satanae?
> Electi: Abrenuntio.
> Celebrans: Et omnibus operibus eius?
> Electi: Abrenuntio.
> Celebrans: Et omnibus pompis eius?
> Electi: Abrenuntio.
>
> Formula C
>
> Celebrans: Abrenuntiatis peccato, ut in libertate filiorum Dei
> vivatis? Electi: Abrenuntio.
> Celebrans: Abrenuntiatis seductionibus iniquitatis, ne peccatum
> vobis dominetur?
> Electi: Abrenuntio.
> Celebrans: Abrenuntiatis Satanae, qui est auctor et princeps peccati?
> Electi: Abrenuntio.
>
> This last formula was (very) loosely translated into English
> (probably in 1974) as:
>
> Cel: Do you reject sin, so as to live in the freedom of God’s
> children?
> All: I do.
> Cel: Do you reject the glamour of evil, and refuse to be mastered by
> sin?
> All: I do.
> Cel: Do you reject Satan, father of sin and prince of darkness?
> All: I do.
>
> So there you have it: "the glamour of evil" is a 1970s rendering of
> "seductionibus iniquitatis"! I shall have to dig out my dictionary
> of ecclesistical Latin to see if I can do better...
>
> (It is perhaps worth noting that the Latin translation of the 1979
> Episcopal Church Book of Common Prayer uses "seductionibus
> iniquitatis" to render "all sinful desires"... which in turn
> probably derive from Cranmer's "the carnal desires of the flesh".)
>
> John Briggs
>
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