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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture<br><br>Yes, 'wood' rather than 'tree' would be a better translation, I would have<br>thought, in line with the Good Friday antiphon 'Ecce lignum crucis'. So<br>'blessed wood'/ 'bounteous wood'?<br>Jan<br><br>--<br><br>Dr Janice Pinder<br><br>Research Affiliate<br>School of Philosophical, Historical and International Studies (SOPHIS)<br>20 Chancellor's Walk, Clayton Campus<br>Monash University, 3800<br>Australia [...]
2024-03-15T12:12:32+11:00Janice Pinderhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MEDIEVAL-RELIGION;464f8257.2403Re: The cross as a tree (adjective needed!)
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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture<br><br>I was just in India, where there are tree shrines everywhere. While medieval Europe is not usually considered in those terms, there is lots of peripheral evidence for tree shrines there, usually, of course, "baptized" by association with a saint - the tree of Saint-Claude in Picardy, for example. In particular, there were hundreds of Marian shrines all over western Europe focused on a statue of the Virgin and Child which had been found in a tree and which demanded a chapel to be built at the site. At Scherpenheuvel in Belgium, [...]
2024-03-15T00:05:48+00:00James Bugslaghttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MEDIEVAL-RELIGION;784733da.2403Re: The cross as a tree (adjective needed!)
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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture<br><br>Is the amulet made of wood? If so, my initial thought would be to read "per<br>omnia lingna benigna" as referring to the wood of the amulet, thus: "Seal<br>me by all [these] blessed [pieces of] wood."<br><br>--NMC
2024-03-14T19:04:30-04:00Nathaniel Campbellhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MEDIEVAL-RELIGION;28eaafe1.2403Re: If one were to pick the outstanding examples of Western Christian luminaries for 1000 and 1100
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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture<br><br>A purely personal response, but: Abbot Suger, Peter Abelard, and Hildegard of Bingen.<br><br>Regards,<br><br>Jane<br><br>On 14 March 2024 12:35:34 GMT, Richard Landes <rl.seconddraft@GMAIL.COM> wrote:<br>>medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture<br>><br>>(say 2-3 per period)<br>>what would they be?<br>>r<br>><br>>**********************************************************************<br>>To join the list, send the message: subscribe medieval-religion YOUR NAME<br>>to: listserv@jiscmail.ac.uk<br>>To send a message to the list, address it to:<br>>medieval-religion@jiscmail.ac.uk<br>>To leave the list, send the message: unsubscribe medieval-religion<br>>to: listserv@jiscmail.ac.uk<br>>In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write [...]
2024-03-14T14:25:26+00:00Jane Stemp Wickendenhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MEDIEVAL-RELIGION;d2a833c4.2403Re: If one were to pick the outstanding examples of Western Christian luminaries for 1000 and 1100
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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture<br><br>I wouldn´t even try. By the way, in connection with the Millenium, it is now clear that Icelanders were using the same calendar as (at least some) Englishmen, so that their year 1000 was actually our year 999. Which makes not difference for their calculations, but is nonetheless of some interest (maybe!)<br>All the best,<br>Meg
2024-03-14T13:48:17+00:00Cormack, Margaret Jeanhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MEDIEVAL-RELIGION;b803262b.2403Re: The cross as a tree (adjective needed!)
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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture<br><br>Dear Margaret,<br><br>Speaking as a lover of poetry, and an occasional practitioner, I find it not at all surprising that 'benigna' is carrying two meanings at once. I don't think you can find one English word to do the same thing, although a phrase such as 'blest with fruit' might come near. [...]
2024-03-14T12:37:58+00:00Jane Stemp Wickendenhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MEDIEVAL-RELIGION;3b0ec002.2403If one were to pick the outstanding examples of Western Christian luminaries for 1000 and 1100
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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture<br><br>(say 2-3 per period)<br>what would they be?<br>r
2024-03-14T14:35:34+02:00Richard Landeshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MEDIEVAL-RELIGION;4638e517.2403Re: The cross as a tree (adjective needed!)
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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture<br><br>Dear Meg<br><br>There may be a reference here to the assimilation of the Cross to the Tree<br>of Life in the Garden of Eden. The fruit on this tree confers eternal life,<br>and is therefore identified by Honorius with Christ (Gemma Animae, iv. 60;<br>see also Durandus, Rationale Divinorum Officiorum, vi. cxxii. 1.) [...]
2024-03-14T10:28:25-00:00David Critchleyhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MEDIEVAL-RELIGION;6a991ef5.2403The cross as a tree (adjective needed!)
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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture<br><br>Greetings all,<br>I have run across an amulet with the following text:<br><br>crux bona crux dingna (sic)<br>Per omnia lingna benigna<br>tu me consignia<br>ne moriar morte malignia.<br><br>The translation given is:<br><br>Good Cross, worthy Cross,<br>Among all trees the most fruitful<br>Set your seal on me<br>So that I will not die an evil death. [...]
2024-03-14T10:12:34+00:00Cormack, Margaret Jeanhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MEDIEVAL-RELIGION;302cacb1.2403New book: The Old Testament in Medieval Icelandic Texts / Siân E. Grønlie
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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture<br><br>From information received:<br><br>Grønlie, Siân E. /The Old Testament in medieval Icelandic texts:<br>translation, exegesis and storytelling/. Woodbridge: Boydell & Brewer,<br>March 2024 (Studies in Old Norse Literature; 12).<br><br>https://boydellandbrewer.com/9781843847120/the-old-testament-in-medieval-icelandic-texts<br><br>Best wishes,<br><br>Jane Wickenden
2024-03-06T22:56:07+00:00Jane Stemp Wickendenhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MEDIEVAL-RELIGION;69b7b02.2403Re: Versus populum
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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture<br><br>In the Eastern Orthodox tradition (and I am guessing that this is also true<br>of the Oriental Orthodox, "Nestorians," and probably also even the Latin<br>traditions well into the High Middle Ages), the altar is in the "east" end<br>of the temple. If, for reasons of local topography or whatever, that's<br>actually facing northwest or something, it is still treated liturgically as<br>"east." Rubrics refer to facing east or facing west, reading the gospel<br>from the south side of the altar table, using the cleverly named north door<br>and south door in [...]
2024-03-06T10:48:55-06:00Kurt Sherryhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MEDIEVAL-RELIGION;f468710f.2403Re: Versus populum
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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture<br><br>Dear Richard<br><br>It seems that the priest always faced east to pray. According to Origen,<br>this practice was "handed on and entrusted to us by the High Priest and his<br>sons."<br><br>The question is more, in which direction did everyone else face? Clearly, in<br>an oriented church with the altar at the east end, they faced east. In a<br>church like St Peter's Rome, where what we would call the nave lies to the<br>east of the presumed position of the original altar, the matter is obscure.<br>Did the congregation turn their [...]
2024-03-06T10:58:19-00:00David Critchleyhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MEDIEVAL-RELIGION;c0b92e99.2403Versus populum
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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture<br><br>In the history of early Christianity when does the priest first turn to face the congregation (versus populum) rather than pray in the same direction?<br><br>Richard Landes
2024-03-05T07:28:29+02:00Richard Landeshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MEDIEVAL-RELIGION;2afe641b.2403AW: [M-R] AW: [M-R] Desecration of the host - trials of Templars
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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture<br><br>Dear Meg,<br><br>The Templar trials are unpromising for your line investigation, because the passages to which I referred in Schottmüller’s document from England and in the Annales Londonienses are rare exceptions.<br><br>In their alleged crimes directed specifically against Christ, the Templars were officially (i.e. in the articuli mentioned below) accused of abnegating and contempting him, not believing in the sacrament of the altar, omitting in their consecration of the wafer the words «Hoc est enim corpus meum», and desecrating the cross by spitting, urinating and trampling on it. In England, though not [...]
2024-03-05T02:06:37+01:00Otfried Lieberknechthttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MEDIEVAL-RELIGION;53947242.2403CFP: Early Middle English Society Conference and Anchoritic Society Conference
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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture<br><br>Dear Colleagues:<br><br>The International Anchoritic Society and the Early Middle English Society invite you to submit abstracts for their forthcoming joint conference at Brandeis University, in Boston, MA, August 29-September 1, 2024. The conference trip will be to Salem, MA (home of the infamous witch trials) on September 1. [...]
2024-03-03T22:34:49+00:00Sauer, Michelle Mhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MEDIEVAL-RELIGION;fe65a76b.2403Re: [M-R] The Holy Name of Jesus
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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture<br><br>Thank you again Otfried - generous and hugely knowledgeable as ever. As you say, the Gerardus passage does seem to have a direct bearing on my original enquiry. Meaty food for thought!<br><br>Best wishes,<br><br>John
2024-03-03T18:11:52+00:00Prof John Barneshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MEDIEVAL-RELIGION;cdb01dc9.2403Re: Holy Name of Jesus
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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture<br><br>Thank you Rosemary. This looks interesting.<br><br>Best wishes,<br><br>John
2024-03-03T17:53:49+00:00Prof John Barneshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MEDIEVAL-RELIGION;a4f06346.2403AW: [M-R] The Holy Name of Jesus
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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture<br><br>If I may offer a comment on the question of aspiration: The iota is unaspirated, of course, but for early Latin authors this was a bit less obvious than to us, see the Latin forms Hiesus and Ihesus discussed by Ludwig Traube, Nomina Sacra: Versuch einer Geschichte der christlichen Kürzung, Munich: C. H. Beck, 1907 (available at https://archive.org), pp. 149ss., pp. 4ss. And medieval authors too still had to point out the confusion of Greek eta and Latin h(a) as an error or used the similarity of the letter form as the [...]
2024-03-03T02:53:10+01:00Otfried Lieberknechthttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MEDIEVAL-RELIGION;f12e563f.2403Holy Name of Jesus
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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture<br><br>Hello all<br><br>I haven't been following this discussion closely but I just came across this<br>article, which I thought might be of interest:<br><br>Rob Lutton, 'Love this Name that is IHC': Vernacular Prayers, Hymns and<br>Lyrics to the Holy Name of Jesus in Pre-Reformation England', in E. Salter<br>and H. Wicker, Vernacularity in England and Wales, c. 1300-1550 (Brepols,<br>2011), pp. 119-45 [...]
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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture<br><br>Thank you Carolyn. I knew something about Rolle, but the bibliographical suggestions look useful.<br><br>Best wishes,<br><br>John
2024-03-01T19:28:11+00:00Prof John Barneshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MEDIEVAL-RELIGION;e171c761.2403Re: Desecration of the host
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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture<br><br>I have never looked into this, but I have been told that the reason the<br>Eastern Church adopted the practice of distributing the Eucharist on a<br>spoon was to prevent the popular pious practice of taking some of the host<br>home for later, personal consumption. That explanation might be totally<br>bogus, but I could see it being true. [...]
2024-03-01T10:17:13-06:00Kurt Sherryhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MEDIEVAL-RELIGION;61802e3c.2403Re: AW: [M-R] Desecration of the host - trials of Templars
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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture<br><br>Thanks to everyone for their contributions! I am particularly interested in the account of the trials of the Templars mentioned by Otfried, as that involves latrine-casting as well as devil-worship. My knowledge of those trials is fairly limited (based on Cohn´s 'Europe's Inner Demons'), but as I understand it, their purported pact with the devil was accomplished by kissing him under his tail in some bestial form rather than by a written contract. Does anyone know where I can find a detailed discussion of these accusations/trials?<br>Meg
2024-03-01T12:16:16+00:00Cormack, Margaret Jeanhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MEDIEVAL-RELIGION;172df467.2403Re: The Holy Name of Jesus
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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture<br><br>Hello everyone,<br><br>Apologies too for joining this interesting thread late. Not sure if it has been discussed yet, but before the birth of Bernardino of Siena, the cult of the Holy Name was present in late medieval England in association with Richard Rolle (d. 1349). See Nirit Debby’s article on the Holy Name of Jesus in Encyclopedia of the Bible and Its Reception (De Gruyter). [...]
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