Shifting again to TV, the Borg of Star Trek (if this hasn't been
mentioned) are the ultimate cyborg, forming their social order
through a single borgian entity. Don't remember, but perhaps one of
the Star Trek films featured the Borg.
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>Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 13:26:09 EST
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>Terminator and Alien show andriods , not cyborgs .
> If we take an Andriod being a fully synthetic machine in the shape of a
>human, and a cyborg being a human with a foreign attachment i would
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>like Hands of Orlock (if thats the title)?, things along the lines of 'alien
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>>It's TV, not cinema, but 'Adam' in Season 4 of Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
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>Ah, Carol beat me to it! What's especially interesting about Adam is that
>he's not just a cyborg but a human/demon/machine hybrid.
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>Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 18:10:53 EST
>From: Jon Baldwin <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: London research seminar: Chris Marker: Ethics,
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>As a speech act (in J L Austin=E2=80=99s How to do things with words) and a=
>s a=20
>theory of gender identity constitution (in Judith Butler=E2=80=99s Gender T=
>rouble), the=20
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>something or=20=
>someone into=20
>being. The notion of performativity thus questions the relation between a=20
>performance and a pre-existing ontological ground, since the performance is=
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>everything. Entering into dialogue with contrasting theories of the perform=
>ative=20
>within the context of documentary studies (most notably by Stella Bruzzi an=
>d Bill =20
>Nichols), =20
>I wish to explore the relation between ontology and performativity with=20
>reference to Chris Marker=E2=80=99s work, paying particular attention to hi=
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>style. While performativity may enable us to theorize how this film comes =20
>into being, it is not in a manner akin to Austin's speech act, or Butler's=20
>gendered bodies. Indeed, the body of Marker=E2=80=99s film is disarticulate=
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>From: Leon MARVELL <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Question on cyborg
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>Perhaps the first cyborg in cinema: the "evil Maria" in Lang's Metropolis.
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>> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 03:17:27 -0800
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>> hallo
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>> My mind has gone empty so could you please help me with something? Can
>> anyone think of a cinematic example where a cyborg is presented as a monster
>> and a negative character?
>> All I could think of by myself is the Darth Vader character from
>>Star Wars.
>> thanks
>> Helen Tragea
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