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Thank you, John, for that information. Though I'm interested in your comment
that the texts I quoted are part of "the vesting and prayers before Mass".
When I was a boy and "served mass", we processed out and these were the
first words that were dialoged at the foot of the altar between the
celebrant and server. I always presumed that was the opening of the mass.
The Introit, as you say, a variable text, was sung by the choir during that
opening dialog and then, as I recall, the priest, having finished the
dialogue, mounted the altar and repeated the introit from the missale. Was
there a different point of beginning in the Sarum Rite (or elsewhere?)
JBW
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>Subject: Re: Ordinarium missae
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>John B. Wickstrom wrote:
>>
>> Could anyone tell me whether the Tridentine formula opening the
>> Ordinary of the Mass dates back to medieval times? Perhaps how early?
>>
>> In nomine patris, et filii, et spiritui sancti. Amen.
>>
>> Introibo ad altare dei ad deum qui laetificat juventutem meam. etc.
>>
>
>Well, it's in the Sarum Use, which is as medieval as they come!
>
>But "Introibo ad altare dei ad deum qui laetificat juventutem
>meam." is part of the Vesting and Prayers before Mass, whereas
>there were several different Introits in use.
>
>John Briggs
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