John Hall wrote:
>No, that is my reading too.
it occurs to me that there are other possibilities, at least as likely as the
one i jumped to:
1) the canons were attached to their glass, due to it's subject matter, say,
or some associations with it, or simply its expense;
b) the subject matter of the glass was, specifically, not suitable for
whitemonkish usage, beyond or regardless of Bernie's ideology (which, i would
assume, was not necessarily universally adapted by all C houses
--or was it?).
>Of course, the move never actually took place.
*that's* interesting: a turning point in history at which point history failed
to turn.
am i wrong or was it rather unusual for the cistercians to take over
("reform") a pre-existing place? seems like --early on and in france at
least-- most of their gigs were _de novo_ foundations, esp. in "deserts" and
downwind from other human habitations, colonized as spin-offs from their own
"mother houses."
as opposed to, say, the cluniacs (and Victorines??), who made a cottage
industry of comming in and straightening out places which had gone crooked.
"Kirkham N. Yorks" sound like a smallish sort of place; who'd want to go
there, anyway.
>By the way, was arthisterical more than just a typo? ;-)
sure. }%~{
although, i have to say that, to judge by some of the papers i've seen in the
last few years at kalamazoo, the arthysterians working on Cistercian stuff are
generally a more sober bunch than their collegues working in the whirled at
large, many of whom seem to have let the middlevil subject matter get to them
and frequently come very close to having lost touch with reality all together,
52 cards short of playing with a full deck.
best from here,
christopher
original post:
>Richard Marks has suggested that prior to the draft agreement in the
Rievaulx cartulary of c.1139, which was to allow the Augustinians of Kirkham
N. Yorks to remove their coloured glass to a new house at Linton when Kirkham
was to be handed over to the Cistercians, the Cistercians
had coloured glass in the windows of their own abbeys. His evidence is a 1159
ruling of the General Chapter: "Vitreae diversorum colorum ante
prohibitionem factae, infra triennium amoveantur."
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