Dear Paul,
Thank you for your message.
As an observer, and sometimes participant, of the different forms of design
for humanity and the biosphere, it seems there is a useful alternative
picture to consider to that seen from the professional design viewpoint.
Some of the history and formation of the design movements, and some of the
rage that drove their formation, is characterised in the Spectactular Times
commentaries of Larry Law.
I think it's worth remembering four things:
Firstly, using design to support users, societies, humanity and the
biosphere was the driving force behind the start of sustainable
design/eco-design/design for the bottom of the pyramid/community
participation in planning/ co-design/ alternative technology/appropriate
technology/intermediate technology/small is beautiful/design for
development, engineers without borders, counter-culture etc.
Secondly, many of these movements were started with a real rage against the
conventional practices of professional commercial designers, architects
and planners, or at least a sense that something needed to be done that was
very different. They had a strong political origin.
Thirdly, mosttly these movements were all started OUTSIDE, against, and as
an alternative to, commercial design practices as taught in design schools
and universities. In almost all cases the aim was to protect the majority of
society from the decisions made by professional designers, architects and
planners.
Four, many of these humanity-based and ecologically-based design movements
became corrupted - to focus only on products and technology - as soon as
they became taken up by professional designers and design students trained
in universities and schools of design.
Best wishes,
Terry
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Terry,
Please read the prior emails because you've missed the point entirely. have
not said that eco-design or environmentally sustainable design is not
decades old. It evidently is, I said that clearly.
What I have very clearly said is that the more hollistic concept of
sustainability (which incorporates social sustainability and human
wellbeing) is not "many decades old". In confusing the two you have
completely missed the point and made it sound like I am saying things which
I have never said.
To reitarate what I actually said: Sustainable design from a solely
environmental ("eco") perspective is decades old. Sustainable design
incorporating the concepts of social sustainability and human wellbeing is
not decades old.
Regards,
Paul Russell
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Dear Paul,
The term eco-design goes back a while further.
I owned the business name Eco-Design around 25 years ago. It was around the
time that ecodesign was a strong area of study in design research by the
ECO2-IRN group organised by Tim MacAloone and Tracy Bhamra (now on council
of DRS).
25-30 years ago was a time when many sustainable design battles were
successfully fought (and many won) in the areas that Don is talking about.
For example, it resulted in vehicle manufacturing standards for materials
identification and the avoidance of mixed plastics use that compromised
recycling, and the establishment of design for fast disassembly for
recycling and reuse. These and many other sustainable design standards and
practices have been in place for decades. In the graphic design area it
included the avoidance of problem inks. The larger challenge was improving
product design for small consumer products.
Currently, it appears the best 'recycling' approach is to keep the waste in
a single stream (no more recycling bins!). Instead, use robot and automated
waste separation. Small plants are currently available for around $1m.
Best,
Terry
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Dear Ursula,
Discussion of Sustainable Design being holistic and covering social and
human well-being (as well as environmental) is not "many decades old" to my
knowledge. If you can give some sources for that older than 10-12 years ago,
other than perhaps Papanek who never used the term, that can support that
claim then please share. Sustainability in general has been discussed in
those terms for longer, sure. Literature specifically relating to design
that is explicit in discussing human wellbeing etc. is more recent than
that, obviously.
What I am proposing goes above and beyond any literature on the more
holistic Sustainable Design definitions currently available. I haven't fully
explained it in my email to be succinct and because I'll be presenting it
later.
I find your suggestion to "just Google it" to be rather insulting also. I
don't know why you would assume anyone on the list is so ignorant of the
literature in our field that they would need to "Google it" to educate
themselves.
Regards,
Paul Russell
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Dear Colleagues,
interesting discussion around design for the world instead of design for the
user.
I like to point out that there is a design definition for already many
decades that does what you are searching for:
"I have recently started thinking about what will replace the HCD approach,
which itself replaced UCD well over 10 years ago now, and I came to the
title of 'Humanity-Centred Design'. It happens to be used in a couple of
places already if you google it, but is not properly defined by any of them
so I have tried to do that."
And that is Sustainable Desing or Design for Sustainability.
And there are many many people worldwide discussing and working on it. just
google it:)
best regards
Ursula
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> I have recently started thinking about what will replace the HCD approach,
which itself replaced UCD well over 10 years ago now, and I came to the
title of 'Humanity-Centred Design'. It happens to be used in a couple of
places already if you google it, but is not properly defined by any of them
so I have tried to do that.
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