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Re: mansplaining about sustainability design

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Ken Friedman <[log in to unmask]>

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Mon, 23 Mar 2020 19:53:51 +0100

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Dear Alex,

When I read your post today, I was puzzled. I recall the journal Multi — we had some correspondence about it. I just checked the archive to find your initial CFP. I also checked for responses. I saw no complaint about Multi on the list, and there was no debate about it. Certainly no one demanded that you should not post. 

Your name first appeared on the list in a post you did not yourself send. David Sless posted a conference note on IIID that mentions your paper "Deconstructing the measure of disability: toward an inclusive metric for the evaluation of systems of visual communications and infographics.”

Your first post appeared on August 25, 2010. It was a CFP for the material culture area of the Popular Culture Association/American Culture Association. On August 28, you posted a call for Multi.

I searched the list archive to see who might have posted “an IMMEDIATE shut down by one of the founding members of the group (and a very ‘big’ name in design history) who demanded that I be removed from the list.”

I can’t find anything, certainly not by one of the big names in design history. To my recollection, none of the founders of the list was a design historian. The founding group for this list included studio people — notably list owner David Durling. There were a few people engaged in design theory and certainly people responsible for doctoral programs. There were no design historians.

In your post today, you wrote: “He then went to the lengths to send me an e-mail off list to chastise me and warned me that I should never post such ‘spam’ to the group again despite the fact that he posted similar messages frequently.”

If anyone wrote to you privately demanding that you should not post to the list, you did not need to pay attention. CFPs and new journal announcements may interest people, or not, but it has always been the case that every list member is free to post and no one has the right to tell a list member not to post.

Could this inappropriate response have come when you posted to another list even though you recall it in connection with PhD-Design? 

Your post today reflects feelings that many people experience, myself among them. People feel they aren’t welcome because others do not respond to their posts or comments. As I see it, this is a consequence of the fact that people tend to be deeply engaged in the issues that interest them. That is often a consequence of the fact that scholars and researchers tend to be specialists. Even those who have broader interest than most have a limited range.

Everyone feels neglected or overlooked some of the time, and some feel more overlooked than not. At least that’s my experience. When you consider the large scale of a list with over 3,000 members, posting can sometimes feel like throwing a stone into a bottomless sea. You don’t even see the ripples on the surface.

One example is your recent article. I thought it was interesting, but it is so far removed from my field of activity that I looked at it, thought about it briefly, and moved on to the next thing. As you saw in replies to your post, others found it interesting and helpful for their students and colleagues, so they passed it on. No one thought to write you about it until your post today. I must look at a couple dozens books and articles every day that deserve attention. As it is with most folks, I only write to the author when there seems to be a specific reason. 

One recent example of a reason to write about an article was a journal article on design thinking that carried some notable flaws and gaps. Another was a mistake in a brilliant book by one of my favourite authors. There was an error in the description of the scientist and philosopher Michael Polanyi. I wrote to suggest a change for the next edition. Normally, I don’t write, even when I think a book or article is terrific.

When you post an article to a list like this, I can fairly well say that many people who read it would have had no reason to respond. Your article on “Rainbow diaspora: the emerging renaissance of gay neighbourhoods” would certainly interest a fair percentage of subscribers to a list such as PhD-Design. My guess would be that we have a significant percentage of LGBT list members. Strong interest in the article wouldn’t necessarily translate into significant list response. If you had put the article on your Academia page, the Academia system would have been able to tell you how many online readers you received and the number of full downloads. The Town Planning Review web site probably doesn’t do that.

At any rate, your article, and your recent post were certainly welcome to many, myself among them. That said, I want to say that I wouldn’t have replied to the note about the article. Even though I read it, it is outside my main area of interest. 

Today I’m replying to your post because you raised issues that also concern me.

Warm wishes,

Ken 

Ken Friedman, Ph.D., D.Sc. (hc), FDRS | Editor-in-Chief | 设计 She Ji. The Journal of Design, Economics, and Innovation | Published by Tongji University in Cooperation with Elsevier | URL: http://www.journals.elsevier.com/she-ji-the-journal-of-design-economics-and-innovation/

Chair Professor of Design Innovation Studies | College of Design and Innovation | Tongji University | Shanghai, China ||| Eminent Scholar | College of Design, Art, Architecture, and Planning | University of Cincinnati ||| Email  [log in to unmask] | Academia https://tongji.academia.edu/KenFriedman | D&I http://tjdi.tongji.edu.cn 





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