Ah hah!
On Fri, 17 Feb 2017 at 3:23 am, Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
> Even better are those words that can work as both nouns & verbs…
>
> Doug
> > On Feb 15, 2017, at 5:34 PM, Bill Wootton <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the advice, Andrew. Will seek them. As you say, an exercise
> and
> > one thing I learned from this is to take more care in initial selections
> of
> > repeated words. Do you agree they should be nouns?
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 at 11:23 AM, Andrew Burke <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> A good sestina is a difficult poem to excel ! But always a good
> exercise to
> >> do. I've tried about twenty of 'em and achieved nothing. John Ashbery
> has a
> >> great one and Tom Shapcott wrote a complete chapbook of them ... And of
> >> course Altaforte by Ezra Pound ...
> >>
> >> See the Sestina examples in 'The Making of a Poem' by Mark Strand and
> Eavan
> >> Boland (a Norton anthology). Great book!
> >>
> >> Andrew
> >>
> >> On 16 February 2017 at 07:56, Bill Wootton <[log in to unmask]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thanks, Doug. I was 'winging it' of course and couldn't resist a dig at
> >>> permickety arrangers with the 'anal' appellation.
> >>>
> >>> Bill
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 at 3:30 am, Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Did a pretty good job, Bill, even if slightly bending some rules. A
> >> story
> >>>> emerged, & the final 3 lines did a good summation.
> >>>>
> >>>> On the other hand, ‘Anal gardeners’ had a suggestive overtone…
> >>>>
> >>>> Doug
> >>>>> On Feb 15, 2017, at 2:56 AM, Bill Wootton <[log in to unmask]>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Plonk in words or flowers, P?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Vase appears 7 times as do five other words acc to the 'formula' for
> >>> this
> >>>>> style which I picked off the internet for a challenge. Last word in
> >>> each
> >>>>> stanza must be last word in first line of succeding stanza. Probably
> >>>> broke
> >>>>> some rules.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Agapanthus are common as muck here but offer bright blue/purple
> >> flowers
> >>>> for
> >>>>> most of summer.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>> Bill
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 at 8:43 PM, Patrick McManus <
> >>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> wow and to think I just plonk them in!!!cheers P
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ps trying to remember agapanthus!!perhaps I need
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> a fresh palette in my vase
> >>>>>> pps vase appears quite a lot of times ??
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 14/02/2017 21:57, Bill Wootton wrote:
> >>>>>>> Capture flowers in a vase
> >>>>>>> What have they done to warrant freedom?
> >>>>>>> Keep water up or see them list
> >>>>>>> Pop on sideboard or table the usual custom
> >>>>>>> Remove from rooms their blankness
> >>>>>>> Think of flowers and vases in terms of height
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Use agapanthus for lots of background height
> >>>>>>> Choose clear glass or opaque patterns for your vase
> >>>>>>> Seek advice from a florist if you draw a blank
> >>>>>>> but let your head go, relish the freedom
> >>>>>>> to mix and match, don't feel bound by custom
> >>>>>>> Even take pen and paper - make a list
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Group by colour or go for contrast on your list
> >>>>>>> Bold irises or green gum twigs also offer height
> >>>>>>> Bluebells and lavender can be customised
> >>>>>>> to lean out or rocket out of top of vase
> >>>>>>> Use garden cuttings, both fresh and free
> >>>>>>> even at the risk of leaving some blankness
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Cluster bright colours low but leave some blank
> >>>>>>> spaces for the eye to fill the floral list
> >>>>>>> Leave for beholders some freedom
> >>>>>>> Arrangements can reflect outdoor heights
> >>>>>>> even within the indoor vase
> >>>>>>> Anal gardeners started this custom
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> No reason not to subvert a custom
> >>>>>>> Challenges defy a stultifying blankness
> >>>>>>> Apply a fresh palette in your vase
> >>>>>>> Add metal and coloured plastic to your list
> >>>>>>> Non-flowers can give a stable height
> >>>>>>> Unshackle constraints, experiment with freedom
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> There are no arbiters, you should feel free
> >>>>>>> to develop your own brand new custom
> >>>>>>> Imagine wildly. Climb new heights
> >>>>>>> Fill household blankness
> >>>>>>> Shuffle up your ingredient list
> >>>>>>> Eschew static art - embrace the vase
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Flower arranging is hardly the height of freedom
> >>>>>>> But vases abound and call for new customs
> >>>>>>> Minds turn to blank so soon lest you liven your to-do list
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> bw
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Douglas Barbour
> >>>> [log in to unmask]
> >>>> https://eclecticruckus.wordpress.com/
> >>>>
> >>>> Recent publications: (With Sheila E Murphy) Continuations &
> >> Continuations
> >>>> 2 (UofAPress).
> >>>> Recording Dates (Rubicon Press).
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> In the new dispensation, conspiracy
> >>>> Will be replaced by
> >>>> Collusion, the diction of the age
> >>>> Filtered through the great sieve of particulars
> >>>> To be sorted out later,
> >>>>
> >>>> Ann Lauterbach
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Andrew
> >> http://hispirits.blogspot.com/
> >> Books available through Walleah Press
> >> http://walleahpress.com.au
> >>
>
> Douglas Barbour
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> https://eclecticruckus.wordpress.com/
>
> Recent publications: (With Sheila E Murphy) Continuations & Continuations
> 2 (UofAPress).
> Recording Dates (Rubicon Press).
>
>
> In the new dispensation, conspiracy
> Will be replaced by
> Collusion, the diction of the age
> Filtered through the great sieve of particulars
> To be sorted out later,
>
> Ann Lauterbach
>
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