Even better are those words that can work as both nouns & verbs…
Doug
> On Feb 15, 2017, at 5:34 PM, Bill Wootton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the advice, Andrew. Will seek them. As you say, an exercise and
> one thing I learned from this is to take more care in initial selections of
> repeated words. Do you agree they should be nouns?
>
> Bill
>
> On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 at 11:23 AM, Andrew Burke <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> A good sestina is a difficult poem to excel ! But always a good exercise to
>> do. I've tried about twenty of 'em and achieved nothing. John Ashbery has a
>> great one and Tom Shapcott wrote a complete chapbook of them ... And of
>> course Altaforte by Ezra Pound ...
>>
>> See the Sestina examples in 'The Making of a Poem' by Mark Strand and Eavan
>> Boland (a Norton anthology). Great book!
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> On 16 February 2017 at 07:56, Bill Wootton <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Doug. I was 'winging it' of course and couldn't resist a dig at
>>> permickety arrangers with the 'anal' appellation.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 at 3:30 am, Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Did a pretty good job, Bill, even if slightly bending some rules. A
>> story
>>>> emerged, & the final 3 lines did a good summation.
>>>>
>>>> On the other hand, ‘Anal gardeners’ had a suggestive overtone…
>>>>
>>>> Doug
>>>>> On Feb 15, 2017, at 2:56 AM, Bill Wootton <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Plonk in words or flowers, P?
>>>>>
>>>>> Vase appears 7 times as do five other words acc to the 'formula' for
>>> this
>>>>> style which I picked off the internet for a challenge. Last word in
>>> each
>>>>> stanza must be last word in first line of succeding stanza. Probably
>>>> broke
>>>>> some rules.
>>>>>
>>>>> Agapanthus are common as muck here but offer bright blue/purple
>> flowers
>>>> for
>>>>> most of summer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Bill
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 at 8:43 PM, Patrick McManus <
>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> wow and to think I just plonk them in!!!cheers P
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ps trying to remember agapanthus!!perhaps I need
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a fresh palette in my vase
>>>>>> pps vase appears quite a lot of times ??
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 14/02/2017 21:57, Bill Wootton wrote:
>>>>>>> Capture flowers in a vase
>>>>>>> What have they done to warrant freedom?
>>>>>>> Keep water up or see them list
>>>>>>> Pop on sideboard or table the usual custom
>>>>>>> Remove from rooms their blankness
>>>>>>> Think of flowers and vases in terms of height
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Use agapanthus for lots of background height
>>>>>>> Choose clear glass or opaque patterns for your vase
>>>>>>> Seek advice from a florist if you draw a blank
>>>>>>> but let your head go, relish the freedom
>>>>>>> to mix and match, don't feel bound by custom
>>>>>>> Even take pen and paper - make a list
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Group by colour or go for contrast on your list
>>>>>>> Bold irises or green gum twigs also offer height
>>>>>>> Bluebells and lavender can be customised
>>>>>>> to lean out or rocket out of top of vase
>>>>>>> Use garden cuttings, both fresh and free
>>>>>>> even at the risk of leaving some blankness
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cluster bright colours low but leave some blank
>>>>>>> spaces for the eye to fill the floral list
>>>>>>> Leave for beholders some freedom
>>>>>>> Arrangements can reflect outdoor heights
>>>>>>> even within the indoor vase
>>>>>>> Anal gardeners started this custom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No reason not to subvert a custom
>>>>>>> Challenges defy a stultifying blankness
>>>>>>> Apply a fresh palette in your vase
>>>>>>> Add metal and coloured plastic to your list
>>>>>>> Non-flowers can give a stable height
>>>>>>> Unshackle constraints, experiment with freedom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are no arbiters, you should feel free
>>>>>>> to develop your own brand new custom
>>>>>>> Imagine wildly. Climb new heights
>>>>>>> Fill household blankness
>>>>>>> Shuffle up your ingredient list
>>>>>>> Eschew static art - embrace the vase
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Flower arranging is hardly the height of freedom
>>>>>>> But vases abound and call for new customs
>>>>>>> Minds turn to blank so soon lest you liven your to-do list
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> bw
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Douglas Barbour
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>>>> https://eclecticruckus.wordpress.com/
>>>>
>>>> Recent publications: (With Sheila E Murphy) Continuations &
>> Continuations
>>>> 2 (UofAPress).
>>>> Recording Dates (Rubicon Press).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In the new dispensation, conspiracy
>>>> Will be replaced by
>>>> Collusion, the diction of the age
>>>> Filtered through the great sieve of particulars
>>>> To be sorted out later,
>>>>
>>>> Ann Lauterbach
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Andrew
>> http://hispirits.blogspot.com/
>> Books available through Walleah Press
>> http://walleahpress.com.au
>>
Douglas Barbour
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https://eclecticruckus.wordpress.com/
Recent publications: (With Sheila E Murphy) Continuations & Continuations 2 (UofAPress).
Recording Dates (Rubicon Press).
In the new dispensation, conspiracy
Will be replaced by
Collusion, the diction of the age
Filtered through the great sieve of particulars
To be sorted out later,
Ann Lauterbach
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