Thanks for the advice, Andrew. Will seek them. As you say, an exercise and
one thing I learned from this is to take more care in initial selections of
repeated words. Do you agree they should be nouns?
Bill
On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 at 11:23 AM, Andrew Burke <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> A good sestina is a difficult poem to excel ! But always a good exercise to
> do. I've tried about twenty of 'em and achieved nothing. John Ashbery has a
> great one and Tom Shapcott wrote a complete chapbook of them ... And of
> course Altaforte by Ezra Pound ...
>
> See the Sestina examples in 'The Making of a Poem' by Mark Strand and Eavan
> Boland (a Norton anthology). Great book!
>
> Andrew
>
> On 16 February 2017 at 07:56, Bill Wootton <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks, Doug. I was 'winging it' of course and couldn't resist a dig at
> > permickety arrangers with the 'anal' appellation.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 at 3:30 am, Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Did a pretty good job, Bill, even if slightly bending some rules. A
> story
> > > emerged, & the final 3 lines did a good summation.
> > >
> > > On the other hand, ‘Anal gardeners’ had a suggestive overtone…
> > >
> > > Doug
> > > > On Feb 15, 2017, at 2:56 AM, Bill Wootton <[log in to unmask]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Plonk in words or flowers, P?
> > > >
> > > > Vase appears 7 times as do five other words acc to the 'formula' for
> > this
> > > > style which I picked off the internet for a challenge. Last word in
> > each
> > > > stanza must be last word in first line of succeding stanza. Probably
> > > broke
> > > > some rules.
> > > >
> > > > Agapanthus are common as muck here but offer bright blue/purple
> flowers
> > > for
> > > > most of summer.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Bill
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 at 8:43 PM, Patrick McManus <
> > > > [log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> wow and to think I just plonk them in!!!cheers P
> > > >>
> > > >> ps trying to remember agapanthus!!perhaps I need
> > > >>
> > > >> a fresh palette in my vase
> > > >> pps vase appears quite a lot of times ??
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On 14/02/2017 21:57, Bill Wootton wrote:
> > > >>> Capture flowers in a vase
> > > >>> What have they done to warrant freedom?
> > > >>> Keep water up or see them list
> > > >>> Pop on sideboard or table the usual custom
> > > >>> Remove from rooms their blankness
> > > >>> Think of flowers and vases in terms of height
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Use agapanthus for lots of background height
> > > >>> Choose clear glass or opaque patterns for your vase
> > > >>> Seek advice from a florist if you draw a blank
> > > >>> but let your head go, relish the freedom
> > > >>> to mix and match, don't feel bound by custom
> > > >>> Even take pen and paper - make a list
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Group by colour or go for contrast on your list
> > > >>> Bold irises or green gum twigs also offer height
> > > >>> Bluebells and lavender can be customised
> > > >>> to lean out or rocket out of top of vase
> > > >>> Use garden cuttings, both fresh and free
> > > >>> even at the risk of leaving some blankness
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Cluster bright colours low but leave some blank
> > > >>> spaces for the eye to fill the floral list
> > > >>> Leave for beholders some freedom
> > > >>> Arrangements can reflect outdoor heights
> > > >>> even within the indoor vase
> > > >>> Anal gardeners started this custom
> > > >>>
> > > >>> No reason not to subvert a custom
> > > >>> Challenges defy a stultifying blankness
> > > >>> Apply a fresh palette in your vase
> > > >>> Add metal and coloured plastic to your list
> > > >>> Non-flowers can give a stable height
> > > >>> Unshackle constraints, experiment with freedom
> > > >>>
> > > >>> There are no arbiters, you should feel free
> > > >>> to develop your own brand new custom
> > > >>> Imagine wildly. Climb new heights
> > > >>> Fill household blankness
> > > >>> Shuffle up your ingredient list
> > > >>> Eschew static art - embrace the vase
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Flower arranging is hardly the height of freedom
> > > >>> But vases abound and call for new customs
> > > >>> Minds turn to blank so soon lest you liven your to-do list
> > > >>>
> > > >>> bw
> > > >>
> > >
> > > Douglas Barbour
> > > [log in to unmask]
> > > https://eclecticruckus.wordpress.com/
> > >
> > > Recent publications: (With Sheila E Murphy) Continuations &
> Continuations
> > > 2 (UofAPress).
> > > Recording Dates (Rubicon Press).
> > >
> > >
> > > In the new dispensation, conspiracy
> > > Will be replaced by
> > > Collusion, the diction of the age
> > > Filtered through the great sieve of particulars
> > > To be sorted out later,
> > >
> > > Ann Lauterbach
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Andrew
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