Wondered if people are aware of this situation in Ireland.
Jane Frederick
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Subject: FW: {OzArch} Delisting of Irish heritage places after 1700 AD
FYI - presumably you know all about this?
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Subject: {OzArch} Delisting of Irish heritage places after 1700 AD
Some of you may have heard that the the Department of Arts, Heritage & the
Gaeltacht in Ireland are planning to deregister heritage places that date to
after 1700 AD. Below I copy information posted by English Heritage
archaeologist Sarah May to the Contemp-Hist-Arch list. I have requested more
information from an Irish colleague who is keen to mobilise an international
response to this ill-conceived move. If anyone would like to get involved,
please contact me off-list and I will forward relevant documents and
correspondence to assist.
This of course has some resonance for those of us descended from Irish
famine refugees. English responses have been cautious because of the
colonial complexities of the situation, and Australian perspectives could be
particularly useful here.
Alice
The issue
It is proposed by the Department of Arts, Heritage & the Gaeltacht that
monuments dating to the period post- AD1700 will be delisted from the Record
of Monuments & Places (RMP), thus removing their statutory protection, and
their conditioning within the planning system These monuments have been
highlighted in green on the Department's website www.archaeology.ie
The Archaeological Survey of Ireland (ASI) has been locating, recording and
describing the archaeological monuments of this country for several decades.
The criteria for selection, of monuments to be recorded in each county have,
however, been variable. Significant numbers of post-AD 1700 monuments have
been included in the RMPs for Cork, Galway and Dublin, but not in a
consistent manner. In 1982, guidelines were provided the Cork Archaeological
Survey advising them to survey "everything up to 1700 and selectively
afterwards". A detailed and systematic survey was undertaken by the Cork
Archaeological Survey in order to make an informed selection of post-AD 1700
monuments.
The ASI is currently preparing a revision of the RMP. The ASI is obliged
under government policy (2005 White Paper, 'Regulating Better') to ensure
that there is consistency across the recorded monument listings for each
county. Primarily due to limited resources, as well as a back-log in
processing the previously collected datasets, the ASI is proposing that any
post-AD 1700 monuments previously recorded on the RMP should be de-listed.
The National Inventory for Architectural Heritage (NIAH) whose work
'involves identifying and recording the architectural heritage of Ireland
from 1700 to the present day' does not currently record many of the smaller
scale or more industrial monuments that are integral to development of Irish
history and society during this period.
Position of Institute of Archaeologists of Ireland (IAI)
· The AD 1700 date, although used as a cut-off point, has no basis
in legislation in defining whether a monument is or is not archaeological.
By stating that all pre-AD 1700 monuments are archaeological, it does not
preclude monuments of post-AD 1700 as being defined as archaeological; 'date
is not in itself a determinant of archaeological significance or interest.
Any material remains which can contribute to understanding past societies
may be considered to have an element of archaeological significance.'
Frameworks and Principles for the Protection of Archaeological Heritage
(Dúchas 1999).
· Sites currently being scheduled for delisting - such as vernacular
buildings, lime kilns, holy wells, bridges, milestones, industrial sites
etc. - will not qualify for inclusion in the Record of Protected Structures
of each county and will therefore be left without any form of protection.
· Any removal of protection from post-AD 1700 sites on land would be
at odds with the legislation for shipwrecks, resulting in different
protections for sea and land.
· The archaeology of the post-AD 1700 and industrial period is the
archaeology of the Diaspora and the immediate ancestors of the Irish people.
By delisting the post-1700 monuments, access to a valuable resource will be
removed.
· In contrast to the ASI's proposed removal of the industrial
heritage record of Cork and other counties, the Northern Ireland Environment
Agency (NIEA) continues to build on their interest in structures dating to
this period. The NIEA's Industrial Heritage Record lists more than 16,000
features. Although many entries are somewhat limited in the information
provided, a systematic second survey of historic buildings in Northern
Ireland is underway, and results are accessible through the Industrial
Heritage Database in the Monuments and Buildings Record.
· There is increasing recognition of the value of our industrial
heritage at regional and local level. Projects such as the Industrial
Heritage Survey of Fingal led by Mary McMahon, are systematically examining
the documentary and cartographic sources (Phase 1) and have uncovered
hundreds of new sites. Funded by the Heritage Council through Fingal County
Council it is ridiculous to believe these sites would have no legal
protection. Similarly the numerous sites excavated under archaeological
planning conditions would not have taken place if the current proposal had
been in place.
IAI proposals
· The IAI proposes that the ASI internal policy of removing post-AD
1700 monuments from the RMP has to change, and that the ASI needs to better
acknowledge the post-AD 1700 archaeological resource.
· The NIAH should record all post-AD 1700 monuments on a
comprehensive rather than selective basis, thereby fulfilling its remit as a
national inventory.
· IAI contends that there is an opportunity to tap into LEADER
funding and the Jobbridge national internship scheme to assist in the
recording of all post-AD 1700 monuments. Such an initiative could also
provide training opportunities for unemployed persons, particularly those in
the archaeological profession.
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