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Whether the 1961 Pontificale Romanum is unchanged from medieval practice
is, of course, the point at issue! There was no Roman Pontifical until
1596 (and the Roman Curia exceeded the brief given them by the Council
of Trent -- to issue a new Breviary and Missal -- by issuing the 1596
Pontificale and the 1614 Rituale.) But William Durandus's 13th-century
pontifical was hugely influential and practically determined all
subsequent one. But we are concerned with earlier versions. The
Carolingian Ordo translated by Repsher seems to be the earliest, which
is why it would be nice to nail down precisely what it says. There seems
to be general confusion: Bishop Wordsworth quotes from the "Spotted
Book" which starts both alphabets from the east. I am looking at David
de Bernham's Pontifical (early 13th century) and it clearly states that
the Greek alphabet is inscribed from north-east to south-west [de
sinistro angulo ab oriente ... usque in dextrum angulum occidentalem]
and the Latin alphabet then from south-east to north-west [a dextro
angulo orientali ... usque in sinistrum angulum occidentalem]. The Liber
Pontificalis of Edmund Lacy says the same.
John Briggs
On 06/04/2010 22:45, Stan Metheny wrote:
> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
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> FWIW, the rubric in the 1961 _Pontificale Romanum_ [unchanged from medieval
> practice?] states:
> '. . . scribit . . . alphabetum graecum incipiens ab angulo inferiore
> sinistro, et alphabetum latinum incipiens ab angulo inferior dextero . . .'
> Assuming the main altar in the church is against the East wall, as the
> diagram in the _PR_ does, then the Greek letters go from north-west up to
> south-east, and the Latin from south-west up to north-east.
>
> Stan Metheny
>
>
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> On 06/04/2010 18:56, CARLOS S wrote:
>
>> Some years ago I publshed a paper on the church consecration rite. If you
>> are interested, I can send you a copy of it. Besides, you can see a
>>
> diagram
>
>> based on B. Repsher, *The rite of church dedication in the early medieval
>> era*, Lewiston, 1998:
>>
>> http://picasaweb.google.com/TUIVERDE/Abecedario#545708402109284904
>>
> That diagram appears to be wrong. It would seem that one alphabet should
> run from north-west to south-east, and the other from north-east to
> south-west.
>
> John Briggs
>
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