I think I'm following the trend of this thread.
Have I got this right: T(a,x) is related to but not equal to P(a,x) when
watching Santa Claus being crucified in shop window in a staging of Parsifal
being performed in an unknown language during sex?
Which is why it is advisable to eschew full rhyme.
Best
Dave
2009/5/12 Patrick McManus <[log in to unmask]>
> Martin thanks enjoyed that nyc crucified santa !sums it up
>
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> Subject: Re: Theoretically ... (corrected, what was I thinking)
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> It's an urban legend, Hal, which my partner is fond of telling, eventually
> I
> checked it out - the only crucified Santa was seen in NYC, causing
> considerable outrage - you can see it here:
> http://www.snopes.com/holidays/christmas/cross.asp
> Du siehst mein Sohn, zum Raum wird hier die Zeit. - Gurnemanz
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> Subject: Re: Theoretically ... (corrected, what was I thinking)
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>
> Reminds me of the (possibly apocryphal) story about the Ginza
> store not long after VJ-Day trying to get US culture right in a
> store window by featuring a Santa Claus nailed to a cross.
>
> As urban legends (if it is so) go, this is right up there with the
> one about the banner strung across the Ginza just after the
> MacArthur-Truman blow-up and when MacArthur drew a bead
> on the Oval Office himself: We Pray for MacArthur's Erection.
>
> Hal
>
> "My experience is what I agree to attend to."
> --William James
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> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Martin Walker <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Last time I saw Parsifal there was nobody on a cross - sounds like an
> > interesting interpretation...One could have Kundry hanging naked on the
> > cross all the way through, while Parsifal carries his monster albatross
> (or
> > is it a swan? the swans are reserved for the dons) on his back, sorta
> > neo-existentialist. The Grail knights all wear fishnet stockings, and
> > Amfortas is heavily into S&M. Probably been done - I've seen versions
> with
> > two each of Parsifal & Kundry, with Parsifal changing sex in the middle
> of
> > the 2nd act, etc, but they can't make it weirder than it already is. It
> > certainly weirded out Nietzsche, who claimed he preferred Carmen -
> liar...
> > mj
> > Wenn vollkommene Herrschaft über seinen Gegenstand die freie kunstreiche
> > Ausbildung desselben möglich macht, so können doch die künstlichen
> > Schraubengänge der Polemik nicht die Form der Philosophie sein.
> > If perfect mastery of one's subject makes its free, artistic development
> > possible, then the merely artificial turns of the polemical screw cannot
> be
> > the form of philosophy.
> > F.W.J. Schelling
> >
> >
> > No one does. I was making a desperate effort at a comparison. Oh
> > well. We have titling here too, sub- and sur-. But way back when if
> > you didn't know the basic libretto outlines, it could be a long day.
> > Easter Sunday 1960 I sat through *Parsifal* without knowing squat about
> > what was going on. Who was on the cross again?....
> >
> > k
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