Dear all,
As this seems a discussion that will effect how users benefit from the list I would like to state my agreement with Richard and Tehmina.
Although not all postings are relevant or interesting to me they often provide information that I personally use to compile the 'maybe useful in the future stuff' anything else gets quickly deleted.
Management of this information, as Richard said, is also easy to do and in total takes no longer cumulatively than it does to send an email requesting compiled information from the original poster.
Please. Lets keep the list 'open discussion'
Marcus Grainger
Education Officer
Jersey Heritage
Jersey Museum, The Weighbridge, St Helier, Jersey JE2 3NF
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From: List for discussion of issues in museum education in the UK.
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Richard Ellam
Sent: 18 November 2008 12:37
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Subject: Re: Polite Request - Replying to queries to the GEM list.
Dear Martin, Ruth, and all
For reasons which I hope will be clear I am breaking protocol and
replying to all members of the GEM List, because I think that Ruth's
original request and Martin's response present only one side of an
important argument about how lists such as this are used, and I would
like to briefly put the argument for the other side, that is having
all replies go to all subscribers.
I write as a member of about a dozen lists, some work related, others
not. The majority of these lists work on what I will call the public
reply model, where all postings go to all subscribers. I think this
the better approach for several reasons:
1. If replies are public they are effectively subject to peer review:
the people who reply to queries are not always the most expert - they
may be the most prolix, but that's not the same thing at all. If
replies are subject to public scrutiny, then mistakes will be picked
up. This process, if done in polite and professional way, benefits
all: it ensures that the questioner gets the best advice, it
hopefully educates those who innocently post mistaken advice and it
also may stimulate discussion.
2. Discussion is important: there are not always cut and dried
answers to questions, and there may be legitamate professional
differences about how to proceed. Airing these in public effectively
provides a means of informal CPD, and the result of a discussion of
an issue on the GEM list may help to form a new consensus with the
community about what the best approach to a particular issue is.
3. Its not always obvious that just because when a thread starts its
not of interest to you that it will stay that way. Public discussion
offers the opportunity for serendipity. On a number of occasions I've
gone back to posting on topics which were not relevant to me at the
time, but became so later, and got useful pointers from the postings.
If these had been private between the questioner and respondents I
would not have benefitted.
4. The 'send collected responses' approach that GEM currently seems
to encourage makes work for the questioner in collating and
distributing the replies. Of course this approach also precludes the
kind of valuable discussion that I've talked about above. If people
feel that THEY are too busy to read GEM postings then why do they
assume that the poster of a question will have the time to collate
and distribute replies?
5. The problem of having your inbox cluttered up with lots of
postings from the GEM List is really a matter of how you organise
your e-mail. All mail programmes allow the automatic sorting of e-
mails into different inboxes. I've got a separate in-box for each
list I subscribe to, and so if I don't have the time or the
inclination to read stuff that I've been sent it simply sits there
until I get time to catch up. If all my mailing list mail just ran
into my inbox I'd feel like I was drowning in junk, and would not be
able to follow any of the threads. By managing my e-mail I can keep
on top of it.
6. Answering questions on GEM, and participating in discussions is an
act of altruism - there is no reward. Martin touched on the point
that some people will only reply if they think that everyone will see
they have done so. Given that there is no other reward for
participating in the GEM list than having your name attached to
replies this seems me to be fair enough. If people will more readily
give of their advice in a public setting, where they get some
recognition for their expertise then I think they should be
encouraged to do so. If their 'expertise' turns out to be less than
they think then the peer review mechanism should sort them out, and
maybe persuade them to be less free with bad advice.
I said I'd be brief - I am in danger of breaking that commitment so
I'll stop.
Comments are, of course welcome, and please, Martin, can we have this
discussion, if no others, in public?
Regards
Richard Ellam.
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